Mariota?

MFL got an up close look at Mariota when he was in TEN.  He'll know if he's worth anything.

I have no clue with MFL thinks of him but I do know that Mariota just can't seem to stay healthy.  

Isn't Mariota a UFA in a few weeks ? Feel bad for him - Tenn gets him killed by having a pathetic OL and now Tannehill comes in and earns a probable new contract to push him out the door.

Would think he would have more value than say a Teddy Bilgewater  type contract. 

Definitely wouldn't trade anything for him but he could be a backup option to bridge the gap between Rodgers and his eventual successor. I do think that person is probably in high school today. 

If MLF thinks he's salvageable he may put in a request.  But it always takes 2 and I'm sure there are teams out there who would consider him for a starting role.   If Mariota thinks MLF can save him, he may consider it if he doesn't get better offers.

Mariota stats. He will probably get a chance to start somewhere but is worth a look. 

His name has been batted around when CHI's offseason at QB is discussed.

What Happened to Marcus Mariota?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZcprypiFks 

He says  Mariota's skills in Oregon as mobile, athletic playmaker not utilized in NFL.

Probably true, new trend in NFL is build offense around QB skills vs old school fit guy into system approach. Working well in Baltimore for sure.

Nagy might really get excited about Mariota's sugar plumbs.

Bears will have some decent options if they want to move away from Trubisky.   Winston, Mariota, Newton.   What's their cap space like?

They are projected to have 11 million in cap space without making any other moves. 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/chicago-bears/cap/2020/

They could cut Allen Robinson, Kyle Long, and Amukamara and immediately clear another 21 million. 

Trubisky will cost them 9 million of cap space next year whether he's on the team or not. 

Interesting. Going by that site we have $28 million in 2020. Gonna need that to retain a few players but we should be able to be active in free agency. The dolts to the west are about $2 million in the red. 

H'mmmm,  Allen Robinson.

He's been their best WR.  I can't see them letting him go.  And he already turned GB down once.

Lotta Boyle haterz in this thread. 

PackerHawk posted:

Interesting. Going by that site we have $28 million in 2020. Gonna need that to retain a few players but we should be able to be active in free agency. The dolts to the west are about $2 million in the red. 

That number will go up after Graham and Taylor are released. 

They could save $22M in cap space by cutting Linsley ($8.5M), Graham ($8M), Taylor ($4.5M), and Josh Jackson ($1M). Combine that with the $26.74M they're projected to have and they could afford Bulaga, KC, Schobert, and a couple other low end UFA's.

Guess it depends on Mariota's health and his asking price. If he's looking for a starting opportunity and the corresponding pay the nope. If he's looking for a backup opportunity with moderate veteran QB pay then maybe. If he's healthy he's actually not a bad passer, he's got David Carr syndrome though.  

I can't see any way GB hangs onto Graham so I agree there's an instant cap savings there.  Linsley isn't worth anywhere close to his salary number so he can go as well.  I'm indifferent on Taylor.  A lot can be said for having guys on the bench that can step in and play.  Jackson is cheap enough but he's just not a good football player. 

I don't know what they're paying Allison but his ass can go too.  

Allison $2 million this year. A big waste.

Who plays center if they cut Linsley?

Patrick

Gonna have to find somebody in the draft most likely.

YATittle posted:

Patrick

No way, I am 69 years old and out of shape. The only center I play now is my entertainment center.

Imagine the holding calls with a starfish as the center.

Boris posted:

Lotta Boyle haterz in this thread. 

There is absolutely no Boyle hatred here. I actually like him a lot.

I asked because I think Mariota could add a completely different aspect to this offense if he would ever need to play.

Brett Hundley added the aspect of total suck, but the doesn't necessarily mean it's an aspect we want to add.

Boris posted:

Lotta Boyle haterz in this thread. 

Would people feel better with Kizer or Hundley as our #2 QB? Boyle is a lot better than those two. I'll stay with Boyle until Gute feels it's time for a change.

Pikes Peak posted:

H'mmmm,  Allen Robinson.

On board with this idea... 

mrtundra posted:

Boris posted:

Lotta Boyle haterz in this thread. 

Would people feel better with Kizer or Hundley as our #2 QB? Boyle is a lot better than those two. I'll stay with Boyle until Gute feels it's time for a change.

Boyle is a lot better? Based on what? The way he holds a clipboard? As for Gute, he traded for Kizer so his ability to judge QBs is hardly off to a stellar start.

Fedya posted:

Brett Hundley added the aspect of total suck, but the doesn't necessarily mean it's an aspect we want to add.

Are you actually comparing Hundley to Mariota? Hundley can't carry Mariotas jock.

Hundley is the pure definition of not NFL ability. Mariota is at least capable of reading an NFL defense and winning almost 50% of his games as a starter.

this is ok as a backup filling in for a few game stretch.

I have already seen what the Hundley's and Kizer's can do, no thanks.

I think that between them they have 1 win as a starter. Again, no thanks.

Like I said, I like Boyle and maybe he is capable, I just think Mariota could add a different dynamic to the backup QB position.

I want a backup quarterback that is capable of replacing Aaron Rodgers when the time comes.  Hundley, Kizer and Boyle weren't/aren't that.  GB needs to draft a quarterback to groom as a future starter.

heyward posted:

mrtundra posted:

Boris posted:

Lotta Boyle haterz in this thread. 

Would people feel better with Kizer or Hundley as our #2 QB? Boyle is a lot better than those two. I'll stay with Boyle until Gute feels it's time for a change.

Boyle is a lot better? Based on what? The way he holds a clipboard? As for Gute, he traded for Kizer so his ability to judge QBs is hardly off to a stellar start.

I think the Kizer thing was simply trying to get anything for that sack of turds 1st round pick.

heyward posted:

mrtundra posted:

Boris posted:

Lotta Boyle haterz in this thread. 

Would people feel better with Kizer or Hundley as our #2 QB? Boyle is a lot better than those two. I'll stay with Boyle until Gute feels it's time for a change.

Boyle is a lot better? Based on what? The way he holds a clipboard? As for Gute, he traded for Kizer so his ability to judge QBs is hardly off to a stellar start.

Based on Boyle's willingness to stand in the pocket and try to deliver he ball, rather than running for his life at phantom pressure and tossing the ball 20 feet over a wide open receiver?

Other than that they are the same.

Pakrz posted:

I want a backup quarterback that is capable of replacing Aaron Rodgers when the time comes.  Hundley, Kizer and Boyle weren't/aren't that.  GB needs to draft a quarterback to groom as a future starter.

As do I. And it doesn't need to be Mariota per se, just someone that is capable of being 50-50. Our future starter is still in HS..

Think he's probably more interested in starting than holding a clipboard.

Henry posted:

heyward posted:

mrtundra posted:

Boris posted:

Lotta Boyle haterz in this thread. 

Would people feel better with Kizer or Hundley as our #2 QB? Boyle is a lot better than those two. I'll stay with Boyle until Gute feels it's time for a change.

Boyle is a lot better? Based on what? The way he holds a clipboard? As for Gute, he traded for Kizer so his ability to judge QBs is hardly off to a stellar start.

I think the Kizer thing was simply trying to get anything for that sack of turds 1st round pick.

I agree

Thank you MC, but even I do not see Mariota as a viable backup plan  I was throwing crap against the wall. 

Honestly, the Packers need to win, now, not in the future!

how many teams can say they have had btob HOF QBs and only won 2 SB?

only one that I know of.  Pretty sad.

i was jut thinking Mariota may be a good backup plan.

others on this forum have beaten me into submission .. Mariota sucks

Thank you MC, but even I do not see Mariota as a viable backup plan  I was throwing crap against the wall. 

Honestly, the Packers need to win, now, not in the future!

how many teams can say they have had btob HOF QBs and only won 2 SB?

only one that I know of.  Pretty sad.

i was jut thinking Mariota may be a good backup plan.

others on this forum have beaten me into submission .. Mariota sucks

GrainBelt66 posted:

how many teams can say they have had btob HOF QBs and only won 2 SB?

How many teams have had back to back HOF QB's? Extremely small sample size.