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Originally posted by Diggr14:
Haha, thanks. Dude is a tool though. The whole buyout of Bert was so poorly handled and in super poor taste. He was the mastermind of that failure. He can go. That's my opinion...


As long as there's a record of it. That's the main thing.
I once played basketball with Murphy. It was while he was AD at Colgate and their basketball team was in the NCAA's and had some game in Massachusetts where I lived.

He was really good (figures). I believe it was Chris Hanburger who also played (who once played pro ball). I know he was a LB. He had the temperament of someone who liked pain - both inflicting it and getting it!)
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Originally posted by Hungry5:
How exactly is that germane to the rumor of Murph as Stanford AD?


This.

I don't know what the point of that post was.

As for Murphy, I guess Im just indifferent to him. I don't see that he's done alot for the organization one way or the other. I mean he inherited one hell of a staff and I guess to his credit, he's fairly hands off.

But would it be that much of a loss if he left?
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Originally posted by Diggr14:
Haha, thanks. Dude is a tool though. The whole buyout of Bert was so poorly handled and in super poor taste. He was the mastermind of that failure. He can go. That's my opinion...


He gave Bert a chance for redemption and Brent pissed it away. That's on Barf, not Murph. I like Murph. He's leaving the football operation alone. Good boy!
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Originally posted by Hungry5:
How exactly is that germane to the rumor of Murph as Stanford AD?
Not one bit, of course.

I just think it's kind'a cool I ended up shooting hoops with the guy who would head operations for my beloved Packers.
I once waited in line with Pat O'Brian at Ribfest in Sioux Falls SD before a Joan Jett concert. He was wearing a "Kiss Nation" shirt, talking on a gold cell phone, and much smaller than I would have thought from seeing him on TV.
Didn't Murphy handle the stadium expansion? Finance it with stock? That was all good. He has kept TT and MM under contract and happy. What else could he have done? We didn't lose our coach to Seattle and our GM didn't retire. I like the guy. Not sure about the retiring #4 stuff. That can wait another 10 years or so.
Murphy went and made the offer to Favre to protect his legacy. Murphy at least had the foresight that it could get ugly and wanted to protect that for FAvre. Favre had a 20 million dollar offer to stay in good graces with Packer Nation but he spat on Murphy, the Packers, and the fans. Favre responded to the gesture with "Let ne worry about my legacy". Well his legacy is tarnished, he may never be honored like he should have been .
I didn't like the $20 million offer, but otherwise, I thought Murphy and the organization handled an incredibly difficult situation pretty darn well. The Packers took the high road throughout and let Brent take the low road. That's a road he seems very comfortable on.
The premise is that Murphy acted as the de facto owner of the Packers. I don't think Murphy did anything different than other owner would do. For instance, Wayne H. was also in this difficult position in Miami in 2000.

I have the recollection that Favre's retirementcould have been very similar to Dan Marino's. Granted, the latter never had a championship to his name. For example, I believe the dolphins offered a contract similar to the $20 million one mentioned above by FloridaRob to Marino. I believe Marino accepted it, but I have not been able to verify that. (I'm not talking about the 2004 thingy)

Note that Marino was also offered to close out his career with the Vikings:
Marino says no to Green

He declined that offer which was exactly the opposite to what Favre did.

I think Murphy did what others had tried to do passify the forced retirement of an aging legend. One big difference was that Favre never cooperated. I don't think the Packers are in terrible shape during Murphy's tenure. I'm not down on him by any means.
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Originally posted by Hauser:
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How exactly is that germane to the rumor of Murph as Stanford AD?


Only thing I can figure is that was supposed to be a 'Look At Me' post
Heck.

Alright, I'll fess up. After that event, I started to expect everyone to genuflect before me in unabashed admiration.

I just thought it was kind'a cool is all.
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Originally posted by Floridarob:
Murphy went and made the offer to Favre to protect his legacy.


Meh. He made the offer so the Packers could sell Favre memorabilia for the forseeable future. Protecting the legacy was just a bonus.
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Originally posted by Green Crustacean:


I think Murphy did what others had tried to do passify the forced retirement of an aging legend. One big difference was that Favre never cooperated. I don't think the Packers are in terrible shape during Murphy's tenure. I'm not down on him by any means.


Favre had probably his best season of his career the season prior. I don't think it was that obvious that he was an aging legend that was at the twilight of his career. He might have had that thought to treat him like past QBs had when they were done, but he obviously wasn't done physically or from a talent standpoint. You might be able to make the argument that mentally he wasnt there anymore.. but I dont see the Marino situation and the Favre situation the same way. It was more like, we have a PR disaster on our hands, what is the easiest way we can make this go away.
Your missing the point. Murphy didn't make that call to get rid of TOG. Not getting baited into that kind of thread. My point was Murphy did nothing out of the ordinary as Club prez vs. other owners in remotely similar positions.
Murphy's out of touch. To think Pevre can mend his fences in 1 to 2 years with Pack Nation is delusional. Is there a statute of limitations for traitors?????

He really stepped on his foreskin (probably playing basketball) on that red herring.

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