Matter of time for new helmets?

I can't wait.

Need the Gary Busey helmet protector.

"Amateurs..."

Did Mel Kuyper play Eddie Munster when he was young?

Wasn't it Ditka who said they shouldn't wear helmets at all, and that this would prevent people from leading with their head and getting concussions?

Stupid.

I think it was Joe Pa..

probably was. i can't really remember.

I heard that soft helmets were being considered. They could like some of the above pics. I can imagine that some players would not like to be seen in a soft puffy helmet.

New Saints helmet:

Above only works if Wheeling, West Virginia becomes a sister city to Barrow, Alaska.....

Now that's just stupid.


Asians can't play football.

True, but they can turn a radio into a watch.

Not so fast my racist friends!

http://content.usatoday.com/co...na-a-tryout-685310/1

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Originally posted by Henry:

ChickenPuke and TD

Don't know where to put this... so it goes here. Osi Youminyouradumdum's tweet:

Kurt Warner is Right to think how he is thinking about his kids and football Its an awesome game and has done a lot for me, but i know when im 45 there is a strong chance il be in a wheelchair. If i can avoid that for my son, i will. But if he wants to play i wont stop him.

Then GTFO of the league man! Don't just flap your beak about it and continue playing the game. Set an example.

I'm growing tired of these guys (Warner, etc) ****ing on a game that brought them fame and fortune. You don't like it? It's too dangerous? Buh-bye.

People change their point of view over time as they learn more

"I am not concerned with being consistent in what I say
I am concerned with being consistent with the Truth as its revealed to me"

many of us revisit the decisions we made as 22 year olds and some of them would be different now.

I don't know how many could resist the lure of fame, fortune and the dream of playing in the NFL even with all of the evidence about their future health issues.
So far the lure of the NFL wins 99 % of the time, but that doesn't mean they won't change their tune later.

The story of the Devil and Daniel Webster comes to mind

Agreed. Knowing what you're getting into ahead of time and learning what you've gotten yourself into after the fact are two different things. The research regarding traumatic brain injuries has exploded in terms of its funding and its progress just within the past 5-10 years. The bottom line is that we know a helluva lot more now than we did recently, and IMHO it's going to get much worse before it gets better as more and more guys who played in the steroid era die early deaths or wind up invalids.

I respect these guys coming out and honestly saying what they're feeling and thinking, despite the fact that they know they're going to be attacked. Rather than reacting, perhaps folks should think about what it means to say that guys who have been through this would hesitate to let their kids do the same thing. They're not crapping on the game.

Didn't Rodgers say something not too long ago about what football could be like in a generation or two?

Not sure about Rodgers, but Aikman had some comments back in Feb about the popularity of the game in the future.

http://articles.latimes.com/20...troy-aikman-20120218

Osi is the same guy that has been crying for a new deal since the season ended. Those cries got worse after Kiwanuka was given a big extension and Osi wasn't. Now he's playing the potential victim card. If the Giants put a 5 year 60 million offer in front of him but asked him to play with a helmet made of asbestos he'd sign it with a plutonium rod.

There is a great discussion to be had here and it's a very good thing it's starting to happen. I've heard more and more comments from the press that the NFL should look at a better "exit strategy" for all players when their careers are over (a point H5 made before I heard it anywhere). But Osi isn't the mouthpiece that should carry the the message or the cause.

Everything that's taking place right now can be put to use in a positive way. Head trauma information, player safety, life after football, eliminating bounties. That's provided the NFL and NFLPA work through everything together.

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Originally posted by Satori:


The story of the Devil and Daniel Webster comes to mind

Dude.

If you're going to go all deep and historical with us, please cite the episode you are referring to!

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Originally posted by JJSD:
Agreed. Knowing what you're getting into ahead of time and learning what you've gotten yourself into after the fact are two different things. The research regarding traumatic brain injuries has exploded in terms of its funding and its progress just within the past 5-10 years. The bottom line is that we know a helluva lot more now than we did recently, and IMHO it's going to get much worse before it gets better as more and more guys who played in the steroid era die early deaths or wind up invalids.

I respect these guys coming out and honestly saying what they're feeling and thinking, despite the fact that they know they're going to be attacked. Rather than reacting, perhaps folks should think about what it means to say that guys who have been through this would hesitate to let their kids do the same thing. They're not crapping on the game.

Didn't Rodgers say something not too long ago about what football could be like in a generation or two?

The way I look at it, the long-term damage to NFL players must be really, really bad for it to have gotten publicized at all. Think about the stigma these guys must feel about their disabilities. They have every reason to try to hide, deny, and downplay their condition. These are men's men who have been indoctrinated since Pee Wee league that tough guys don't complain, tough guys don't let a little pain get in their way, tough guys fight through injuries.

And now we are talking about brain damage. Who wants to admit even to themselves that their memory is shot? that they can't remember how to tie their shoes? Who wouldn't try to cover up the fact that they can't recognize people, places, or things? Who wouldn't downplay problems with finding words? Who is going to come out and say that because of brain damage they can't control their anger or fears, they do impulsive things, or feel like killing themselves? It's hard enough to even recognize that it is happening to say nothing of recognizing that it isn't unique to you and that it is the result of decades of subconcussive hits to the head that you did to yourself. For these guys to come out and admit to brain damage, it must be widespread and bad.

The problem is that it's not the concussion or the knockout that causes this kind of brain damage; it's the countless subconcussive hits to the head that began in childhood.

This is going to turn out to be a lot worse than what we've seen in boxing where it turns out not even headgear (contra the Olympic Committee) protects boxers from brain damage. Now that we can measure it and are measuring it, I fear that we are going to find out a lot of bad consequences from playing football at all levels.

Cheer on the 21st Century's Roman Gladiators!!!

Or a payday.

Just sayn'

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Originally posted by Satori:
many of us revisit the decisions we made as 22 year olds and some of them would be different now.

You mean, given the choice I would stay out of the women's bathroom this time, after a few drinks?

SVP show, on ESPN radio pointed out that for a lot of these guys it was not a choice between being a doctor and being a football player. A lot of these guys, this was the best chance of making it.

That said, hof1991 and I were talking about this just last week. Eventually the NFL will have to mandate this. Also, the NHL will make players wear a damn facemask. If we really want to keep games safe and keep the good talent going to football, they need to show that the equipment on the field can keep up on safety for what they do for performance.