and yikes that Heisman winner is such a skin flint. Yikes.......no wonder he runs so fast. 😂
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Can't coach speed, factor that speed in and the ways they get him open it's near impossible.
The two programs I'd most like to see fall in a crater.
35-17 at the half. Game already decided? If so which score was the dagger? Davante Smith with 3 TDs. He would sure give the Packer offense a boost.
It is a bit of a downer that 2 of our all timers came from Bama, and Scott Hunter.
If you're watching, check out the left guard on Alabama's offensive line, #65. He's crushing people. I saw at least three pancakes on their last touchdown drive.
@Pikes Peak posted:It is a bit of a downer that 2 of our all timers came from Bama, and Scott Hunter.
And China Food.
@ChilliJon posted:Devonta Smith is going to be the 2nd best NFL receiver out of Alabama. Better than Julio Jones, Ozzie Newsome, Amari Cooper, All of them. Except for this one:
I like him, but he's not Julio Jones. Jones is 6'3" 240, and ran a 4.34.
It depends what Smith runs the 40 in. He's rumored to be around 4.50, and he's 6'1", 175 pounds. If he runs in the lower 4.4s or below 4.40, he's a top 5 pick. I just don't see a guy at that size without blazing speed going in the top 5 no matter how good he was in college.
He's obviously a superstar in college, but he's left this game tonight and Alabama didn't miss a beat.
Waddle runs a 4.27. I'd love to see him fall to the Packers.
@Boris posted:🗡️ DAGGER 🗡️
Which score? If Alabama did not score since the half they would still have an 11 point lead. So wasn't the dagger in the first half?
@Ghost of Lambeau posted:Which score?
Early 4th 🌛 quarter good 🌃 😴
From now on if u misspell my name make sure it’s Devonta cuz he that boy.
— Davante Adams (@tae15adams) January 12, 2021
@Pikes Peak posted:It is a bit of a downer that 2 of our all timers came from Bama, and Scott Hunter.
Ha Ha Clinton Dix and Eddie Lacy?
Devonta Smith is a good player. Is he a top 5 prospect?
He’s similar in stature to Calvin Ridley but CR probably has a bit more quicks and suddenness. Ridley certainly would have been selected higher than 26th overall given his production this year.
It’s tough to evaluate Alabama prospects given just about every player on their roster is a 4 or 5 star guy. Every week they line up they probably have a major talent advantage against their opponent.
@DH13 posted:The dude outplays his measurables. Every week.
I think he has more of a chance to be a star in this era of the NFL. 25 years ago he'd have been a big injury risk due to his frame.
I still think he's (D. Smith) going to be a very good, but not HOF-level, player in the NFL. I've seen comparisons to Marvin Harrison. Harrison ran in the high 4.3s coming out of college.
D. Smith is going to be a safe pick. He's a great route runner and is obviously fluid coming in and out of breaks. He'll be productive and, barring injury, play a long time in the NFL. I just don't know if he's going to be a Julio Jones. A lot will come down to how fast he is. At Alabama, he might be their slowest starting WR. It's not like you can overload coverage to him without leaving another NFL-level WR wide open. Having said that, he'd be a great fit in a MLF/McVay type offense as a much better version of a guy like Cooper Kupp (a guy that ran in the 4.6s coming out that is still a very productive NFL WR).
@Tschmack posted:Devonta Smith is a good player. Is he a top 5 prospect?
He’s similar in stature to Calvin Ridley but CR probably has a bit more quicks and suddenness. Ridley certainly would have been selected higher than 26th overall given his production this year.
It’s tough to evaluate Alabama prospects given just about every player on their roster is a 4 or 5 star guy. Every week they line up they probably have a major talent advantage against their opponent.
I agree totally on Bama players and it has to be hard to truly evaluate them because they are so dominant talent wise. As for Smith it sure is going to be interesting to see how he pans out. If I was an NFL team I would worry about how he is built and can he take the punishment that will come his way. Will be really interesting to see if he becomes a #1 WR.
I despise Saban but I have to give credit where credit is due and he is becoming a legend. It is insane how he loses his top assistants almost annually and the beat just keeps going on.
Seriously have no idea how people get excited for NCAA championships other than to see potential NFL talent from the same 4 teams.
I stopped watching college fooseball once the Hawks were done. And the Rona took their last two games. Yawn.
To Henry's point, against any teams outside of Ohio State, LSU, and Clemson right now, Saban is bringing an AK47 to a knife fight.
https://www.sbnation.com/colle...ts-nfl-draft-history
This article above shows that roughly approaching 60% of 5-star recruits get drafted into the NFL as do 20% of 4-star recruits. It falls off to about 5% of 3-star recruits making the NFL.
Here's the breakdown of 5- and 4-star recruits at some selected schools over the last 4 recruiting classes (2017-20)
Team/5-star recruits/4-star recruits
Alabama 14/66
Ohio State 14/57
LSU 8/50
Clemson 13/37
Texas 5/53
Notre Dame 1/46
Wisconsin 1/10 (Logan Brown was the only 5 star)
Iowa 1/6 (Epeneza was the 5 star)
In other words, Saban has 20 future NFL draftees at any one-time on the team. OSU has almost as many.
It's amazing that teams like Wisconsin and Iowa are even remotely competitive, but they do it by turning 3 star recruits into NFL players more than other teams do (J. Taylor and J. Ferguson are 3 star recruits).
The top of the line guys that win you national titles are heavily 5-star recruits and they mostly go to about the same 5-6 teams.
Smith will also probably put on 20-30lbs in his first couple years of being in an "NFL strength and conditioning program".
@DH13 posted:Smith will also probably put on 20-30lbs in his first couple years of being in an "NFL strength and conditioning program".
I agree with you and don't forget about the "dietary and nutritional optimization" that occurs as well.
However, I think Alabama may be superior to many NFL teams when it comes that stuff. It's maybe why some of the Alabama players aren't quite as good in the NFL as you'd expect. The truly elite Alabama athletes (Julio Jones, Minkah Fitzpatrick, D. Henry) are elite in the NFL, but the guys that are just "good" sometimes don't pan out as expected. Part of it might be they look better than they are because almost everyone around them is an NFL player, but part of it might be that Saban's program already does a really good job of optimizing their ability. Guys from other schools may have some room to grow and improve, while a 'Bama guy is already close to maxed out.
@Pikes Peak posted:Can't coach speed, factor that speed in and the ways they get him open it's near impossible.
I root for the Buckeyes by association. It's one more thing to share with the wife. But at the same time, the top-heavy nature has made it far too formulaic and exclusionary, and OSU and Bama are the epitome of the rich getting richer at the rest of the others' expense. If you're a fan of either one, I guess it's nice to know you can expect talent to filter through on an endless cycle. But in reality, what does another BCS trophy mean for either school? More $$$ and more talent, more "dominance", and the struggle to build something of value, which is really the most satisfying thing for a college football fan, is eliminated. Last night to me was little more than Lebron going to Miami, Brady recruiting guys to join him in TB. And I'd have felt the very same had OSU pulled off an upset. It's empty and self-indulgent.
Here's that guard for Alabama that was just demolishing people last night. He jumped off the screen for me, and apparently others noticed too. He's massive, and in addition to being a road grader, has not allowed a sack in three years. https://www.palmbeachpost.com/...football/6612483002/
@artis posted:I root for the Buckeyes by association. It's one more thing to share with the wife. But at the same time, the top-heavy nature has made it far too formulaic and exclusionary, and OSU and Bama are the epitome of the rich getting richer at the rest of the others' expense. If you're a fan of either one, I guess it's nice to know you can expect talent to filter through on an endless cycle. But in reality, what does another BCS trophy mean for either school? More $$$ and more talent, more "dominance", and the struggle to build something of value, which is really the most satisfying thing for a college football fan, is eliminated. Last night to me was little more than Lebron going to Miami, Brady recruiting guys to join him in TB. And I'd have felt the very same had OSU pulled off an upset. It's empty and self-indulgent.
I am married to the biggest OSU fan you would ever meet and I live a little less than an hour from Columbus. This week was weird because OSU fans were very quiet which is unusual. But, I think they knew deep down inside no one was beating this Bama team.
I have been reading a lot these past couple of days that the championship game TV ratings were low. I think it is because of the fact that the same teams are winning every year, the same teams are there every year, and the fact that in the eastern time zone the game ended after midnight. For the life of me I don't understand why they don't play this game Friday night instead.
Or a Saturday night. Same thing with the Super Bowl. Never understood that.
@The Heckler posted:I am married to the biggest OSU fan you would ever meet and I live a little less than an hour from Columbus. This week was weird because OSU fans were very quiet which is unusual. But, I think they knew deep down inside no one was beating this Bama team.
I have been reading a lot these past couple of days that the championship game TV ratings were low. I think it is because of the fact that the same teams are winning every year, the same teams are there every year, and the fact that in the eastern time zone the game ended after midnight. For the life of me I don't understand why they don't play this game Friday night instead.
It was a weird season all the way around. Once Bama started pulling away, I'm sure a lot of viewers abandoned ship. But yeah, the same teams each year are putting a damper on the title game itself. We watched the whole way through, because I think all the kids on that field deserved it for pushing through. I think Fields showed a lot this year and in this game, but the Tide were just clearly the better team. In consolation, I said to my lady that Bama would probably beat a third of the teams in the NFL as well. Playing the game on the Monday after 6 wkend playoff games seemed like a hangover to even me, and I looked forward to it as a way to cap off a couple days of great football. Like others here have said, it's being reduced to a showcase of NFL prospects and dressed up as a big event. I think many people are tired of the Bamas and Buckeyes in the same way it got old to watch the Pats dominate for so long. Maybe that will strengthen the case for 8 or 16 teams, but even that wouldn't have been viable in covid 2020.
In the last 4 years, Alabama has had 42 guys drafted by the NFL. 15 of these guys have been first-round picks and another 15 were drafted in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. Since Saban has been there (2008 recruiting class) they've sent 15 future Pro-Bowlers to the NFL. They'll be a lot more. They have produced Pro Bowlers at almost every level (DB, LB, DL, OL, WR, and RB). QB is actually their weakest position.
This year they are projected to have up to 7 guys drafted in the first round.
They have more high draft picks playing together at any one time than any NFL team in history.
In the last 13 seasons Saban has been there (excluding his first year where he had none of his own recruits), they are 163-17 with 6 titles.
In the last 10 years, they are 129-12 with 5 titles. They losses were by scores
46-41; 48-45; 26-14; 43-37; 23-17; 29-24; the kick 6 game, 31-35, 35-42; and 9-6 in OT.
10 of their 12 losses in a decade were one-score games. They lost 26-14 to Auburn. The only game they've been blown out in 10 years is to Clemson the title game during Trevor Lawrence's freshman year (44-16).
Sure, they are projected to lose 7 guys that are first round picks this year including 2 Heisman Trophy finalists, but their next recruiting class has another 6 5-star players.
If the SB is on Feb. 1, the earliest the NCAAF title game would be is Jan. 17. So you want a minimum of 16 days between the semifinals and the final, and in some cases three weeks.
They have that (2-3 weeks) between the conf champ games and the bowls right now anyway. Plus if the NFL goes to 17 games, that would probably push the end of the season back a week, allowing the national championship game to be played the Sat on the last weekend of the NFL regular season. NFL doesn't play last Sat of the season.
Problem solved. 