I can't see why any side would want this, It's governing freedom, limiting opportunities, and most Americans don't want it.
Unless, of course, you were just a corporate shill, then it makes sense.
Henry posted:Really draining the swamp with all those corporate schills literally ignoring millions of people.
https://act.openmedia.org/ajit...te/donate?src=162148
They are plundering as fast as they can before the inevitable collapse.
Yep, this is "running government like a business", especially when the "businessmen" are neither builders nor thinkers but professional parasites bred to leach assets while legally protected from personal responsibility leaving everyone else with virtually nothing and desperate.
If Net Neutrality goes down, who knows if anyone will be able to access sites like X4 without lengthy delays and slow upload speeds?
Or paying your ISP an additional fee to access "super-duper" content.
Henry posted:Really draining the swamp with all those corporate schills literally ignoring millions of people.
https://act.openmedia.org/ajit...te/donate?src=162148
They are plundering as fast as they can before the inevitable collapse.
Same with killing all the environmental regulations/safe guards. Big oil, big chemical, stepping on the accelerator to cash in as much as possible before it all turns to guano.
Of course, the free flow of information makes sense, and that's why it's got to stop! 
It's scary to think that providers could squash whatever they want, and the government could also make deals/put pressure on companies to put forward only what they want the public to see. With only six major media companies in the world today, the internet with net neutrality is the only thing with a truly free flow of information available to anyone, where you can pick and choose. Democracy, shmockracy. It's big bucks and control first. (Devil's advocate: Yes, of course there's lots of fake news, biases, etc., but at least it's a free flow. Get educated!)
Get educated?......that ship has sailed.
I'm a teacher. Still fighting the good fight! 
As does my daughter and daughter in law. It's not the teachers I'm worried about.
No you don't have to worry about the teachers, but I bet your daughter and daughter-in-law have both addressed net neutrality in their classrooms (provided they teach upper grades). I teach high school and we have absolutely discussed it more than once, as well as addressing how to spot fake news, bias, etc. It's tough to keep up on all of it, plus teach the standard curriculum. But, us teachers tend to be optimistic... BTW, do your daughter and daughter-in-law teach in Wisconsin? I've talked to teachers there and heard some stories of what's happening at the state level and how it's now affecting schools.
Elementary grades, one in Colorado, one in Cali.
Herding cats! 
Fandame posted:No you don't have to worry about the teachers, but I bet your daughter and daughter-in-law have both addressed net neutrality in their classrooms (provided they teach upper grades). I teach high school and we have absolutely discussed it more than once, as well as addressing how to spot fake news, bias, etc. It's tough to keep up on all of it, plus teach the standard curriculum. But, us teachers tend to be optimistic... BTW, do your daughter and daughter-in-law teach in Wisconsin? I've talked to teachers there and heard some stories of what's happening at the state level and how it's now affecting schools.
Do not get me started on what Wanker has done to Wisconsin with his **** storm Act 10. Teachers and other more the qualified people are leaving the State in droves. So much so that they are trying to loosen the qualifications for teachers so that under qualified people CAN TEACH, itâs disgusting. JMHP
I've been teaching 22 plus years in CA and it's always an adventure, but you can make a positive impact no matter what the conditions. I go to national conferences in the summer and have eavesdropped on Wisconsin teacher conversations. Pretty sad all around.
Unfortunately it looks like the ship has sailed and NN is going away.
I can't wait until Spectrum rolls out packages for what sites you get access to.
FFS, FML.
That tax cut I was going to get for a couple of years before it goes away will now go to Comcast for site access so I can do my job. And no, I am not anywhere near the top tax brackets!
I can't wait to hear what big corporations will say when they have to start paying for their employees to research using the net... of course, they will probably find some way around paying.
Of course they will....
Looks like I'm moving out of the U.S. a little sooner than I thought. Mexico & Italy are looking damn good!
Herschel posted:Yep, this is "running government like a business", especially when the "businessmen" are neither builders nor thinkers but professional parasites bred to leach assets while legally protected from personal responsibility leaving everyone else with virtually nothing and desperate.
Corporate America learned lessons very well from Mafioso.
They pay for legislation make it all "legal".
Best racket ever!
As an aside to the teaching comments, I have a 16 year old Granddaughter that has graduation and college on the horizon. I advised her to forget the traditional job market, and go into public service, beginning at the local level.
There's dozens of jobs available; a city or county commissioner and their respective school board positions, full-time pay for part-time work with an obscene benefit package, and she can grow to a State level and beyond if she wants to.
I don't know how current this info is, but this man is the School Superintendent in our county, and has been for many, many years:
Must Be Nice
Info on our County Commissioner salaries. Please note benefits almost double their base salary. Part-time hours.:
Nice Work If You Can Get Itl
Yup. And teachers whine. F that S. Every year my needs and gets another 20 plus million so every kid 'can have an ipad'.
Right.
Don't count teachers as administrators.
That is all I will say at the moment.
I seriously do not know when the teaching profession became the scourge of the employment world. Scary really......and I feel terribly sorry for them.
When the mysterians became the social mantra, society began its downfall.
Academia has brought on safe zones and the concept of 'fill in your own grade' to classes.
Nobody can fail now. Loss is not acceptable. Children don't know how to deal with losing. Losing builds character. It's how one learns to deal with reality.
We're ****ed.
You combined words into sentences
âNobody can fail now. Loss is not acceptable. Children don't know how to deal with losing. Losing builds character. It's how one learns to deal with reality.â
Really???
Cavetoad posted:When the mysterians became the social mantra, society began its downfall.
Academia has brought on safe zones and the concept of 'fill in your own grade' to classes.
Nobody can fail now. Loss is not acceptable. Children don't know how to deal with losing. Losing builds character. It's how one learns to deal with reality.
We're ****ed.
Complete ****ing bull****. Tired tripe that makes you feel better.
Cavetoad posted:When the mysterians became the social mantra, society began its downfall.
Academia has brought on safe zones and the concept of 'fill in your own grade' to classes.
Nobody can fail now. Loss is not acceptable. Children don't know how to deal with losing. Losing builds character. It's how one learns to deal with reality.
We're ****ed.
It's either "find a way to give them passing grades" or you're fired, in many places. It's considered the teacher's fault if the kid fails these days far too often, regardless of all the factors.
