NFL Turning Point at 11 p.m. ET

Apparently hockey is a bigger deal than Dallas' meltdown. How did the Packers do this week. 

I am enjoying the **** out of this.

Even  better I dominated in Bargo tonight, despite buying many rounds of Christmas shots for friends and friends of friends, everyone was happy.

You want a grin and a smirk?

Tell whomever to rub the big ole G on your sweatshirt.

The G-spot.

Live it. Love it. Work it. Let the rest Admire it.

It really irritates me the national media keeps hounding us about the Cowboy Collapse.  No mention of how the Packers, who were on the brink's edge with one foot over the chasm, came back and played/coached outstandingly well to beat the Cowboys in Dallass.  They did not get any lucky calls or breaks either.  In fact, they had several things go against them and they still found a way to beat the Cowboys in Texas.

I'd call the Cowboys inexplicably abandoning a very successful running game a bit of a lucky break, but I do agree with the larger point. Other than the victory formation the Packers scored a TD on all of their second-half possessions and players made the necessary plays, including two great defensive ones from Shields and Tramon. 

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Apparently hockey is a bigger deal than Dallas' meltdown.

I think we can also thank Jerruh for the win. Apparently he was not a happy camper when they lost to the Bears, saying they needed to be more aggressive in playcalling all the time. I bet Garrett had that in mind when he allowed/called all those passes in the second half. 

I'm thankful every day that jerruh is obstructing the cowgirls from being successful.

He's the biggest opponent the cowgirls face every day and twice on Sunday!

I think it's a bigger story because the Cowboys didn't fold to a very good team.  This wasn't an Aaron Rodgers led packer team.  It was a team barely over .500 and not playing well over the previous 6 weeks. 

The Cowboys collapse is part of a larger issue for them over the past several years- December failures of the team and Romo.

Taking no credit from the Packers, I agree the 'boys (and Romo's) annual meltdown is a bigger National story.

It will be talked about more from the GB side if we get into the playoffs and then actually win.

I know this is the national story as well, but after looking at the game, 1st half, and 2nd half - it doesn't support the media outrage directed at DAL.

For the game, DAL threw 48 times and ran 18 times, or a 2.7 to 1 ratio.

1st half, DAL threw 27 times and ran 11 times, or a 2.5 to 1 ratio.

2nd half, DAL threw 21 times and ran 7 times, or a 3 to 1 ratio.

Those pass to run ratios are not drastically different. Take one play from the 2nd half and switch it from a pass to a run and the 2nd half ratio is 2.75 to 1...

To go with this, for the game Murray averaged 7.4 ypc. In the 1st half he averaged 8.5 ypc... in the 2nd half he dropped to 5.9 ypc and that included a 15 yarder. The Packers D did a better job containing more of Murray's runs.

Murray runs:

1st half -

11, 4, 4, -3, 41, 4, 16, 6, 3, 6, 1(TD)  3 big runs

2nd half -

4, 2, 5, 6, -1 that was really a no play due to holding, 5, 15, 4  -  1 big run - that 15 yard run had a 10 yard holding penalty on Bryant at the end of the run, so it was a net +5 yard play

So, while they should have run more to run clock and protect their lead, it is not who they are. Turn the tables and GB likely wouldn't have changed their run/pass mix between the 1st half and 2nd half with a similar lead.

One last comment on this, on their 1st possession of the 2nd half DAL ran Murray 5 of 12 plays on the way to a FG. GBP went right down the field on their next possession for a TD to cut the lead to 29-17. The next DAL possession is where they panicked and went 3 and out with 3 pass plays (Inc, Inc, sacked). After that 3 and out series and a nice punt return from Hyde, GBP scored another TD to pull within 5. DAL only ran the ball two more times the rest of the game. They flinched...

the boys ran one more pass play trying to hold the lead than the Pack ran trying to catch up.

edit: in the second half

Efficiency. Packers ran the ball 19 times in the 2nd half after running it 8 times in the 1st half.

Good breakdown Hungry, thanks!

Quarless with HUGE plays time n time again, didn't realize it until watching replay last night ...

Don't know if I'd call it outrage as much as bewilderment at the Cowboy playcalling and a 3-1 ratio in the second half supports it. The Packer defense never really demonstrated an ability to contain Murray and all they had to do was bleed the clock, play field position and avoid committing any turnovers to win the game.

Probably not a case of abandoning the run as much as it was a complete failure by the Cowboy coaching staff to adjust. You have to give the Packer players credit for making the plays, but a big assist has to go to the incompetence of the Dallas sideline.

I DVR'd this episode and it was amazing just how much Dallas melted down in the 2nd half. I didn't remember it at the time, but they dropped a lot of passes and Romo threw a lot of errant passes.  

Unreal

[re]Watched again last night, the 2nd half is so damn much fun... HAWK got ate up by his blocker on each of Murray's runs over 10 yards. On the runs under 10 yards HAWK was able to shed the blocker and clog up the hole, not necessarily making the tackle but disrupting the play. When Hawk was blocked, he was really taken out and the RB was in the secondary very quickly. Jones was pathetic in run defense and average in pass d.

Something else I noticed last night. Based on Burnett quickly pointing to Jennings and the animated post play conversation between them, it appears MD Jennings missed an assignment on the Witten TD. MD also badly mis-played the ball on the Bryant TD and was late getting tot he play. Richardson was much more active when in the game. Even though it wasn't a fumble, Richardson was the one who came up with the ball on Bryant's 3rd down catch when the ball bounced loose after he stretched for the 1st down.

Please no more Jennings.

If I had my way...  these fellas would not be on the team next year:

MD Jennings (I don't think another offseason program is gonna make him any better)

Brad Jones

AJ Hawk (could possibly keep him around at around 2mil as a 3rd string backup but no more starting)

Marshall Newhouse

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When Hawk was blocked, he was really taken out and the RB was in the secondary very quickly. Jones was pathetic in run defense and average in pass d.

I agree Hungry. Have no clue why they keep putting Jennings out there. He's worse than Peprah was in his final year.

Unfortunately, I missed Turning Point.  So after reading the posts within, I am led to believe that the show concluded that the turning point  was due to the Cowgals' abandoning their run game.  If that's the case, I say: "BS!!!"  Fk that and all the media aftermath coverage focusing on the Cowgals' debacle, and hardly anything on the Packers' influence upon the game.  To me, the turning point was that long run by our beast Lacy, followed up by Nelson's strong ass catch for the TD.