Offensive facemask

artisMember

Earlier in the season, Shields was flagged for facemask while returning a kickoff. Watching the replay, early 4th qtr Forte catches a swing pass from Hanie, and proceeds to grab Bishop's mask....no flag. Was the Shields penalty called by this same crew? Would be nice to know exactly what constitutes a penalty and what does not.

1/24/111:39 PM

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ammoCheese Master

Another play I wondered about was the sack/strip by Sheilds. The ball was clearly loose before Cutler's knee hit, was picked up by a Bear who was never touched and as he ran to the right he just stopped running before being tackled or knock out of bounds. Was there an inadverdant whistle or something?

1/24/111:45 PM

FedyaMember

Ammo:

That was a fumble in the last two minutes of a half, which by rule can only be advanced by the person who fumbled. Any other player on the fumbler's team can recover the ball, but the ball is declared dead at the spot of the fumble recovery.

1/24/111:47 PM

artisMember

Ammo, was that the play where they claimed inside 2 minutes only the ball carrier could recover a fumble and advance the ball? At least I believe that was the Buck explanation.

1/24/111:47 PM

packerboiI lick rainbows

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Originally posted by ammo:
Another play I wondered about was the sack/strip by Sheilds. The ball was clearly loose before Cutler's knee hit, was picked up by a Bear who was never touched and as he ran to the right he just stopped running before being tackled or knock out of bounds. Was there an inadverdant whistle or something?

Inside 2 minutes the only player who can advance a fumble is the player who fumbled. Once that Bear player picked up the ball the play was instantly dead.

1/24/111:48 PM

oldnavyMember

Ammo, that fumble play occurred with under 2 minutes to go in the half. When that happens only the person who fumbled is allowed to advance the ball forward.

1/24/111:48 PM

FedyaMember

I finally beat the smart posters to a rules explanation!

1/24/111:49 PM

GBP1Member

Yeah, elsewhere I mentioned the facemask by Forte. It should have been called based on what happened to Shields earlier in the season.

Cutler's fumble: Inside the last two minutes the player who fumbles the ball must be the one to recover and advance it. Forte was able to recover it, but cannot advance it.

1/24/111:49 PM

The GBP RulesMember

The Shields facemask call was one of those classic "made up on the fly" rules that seem to go against GB from time to time. See the Rodgers "unnatural throwing motion" safety against the Vikings in 2008. It was on the drive that they scored the tying TD against Atlanta in the first game.

I have never seen that called on an offensive player before. Peterson does it frequently.

1/24/111:52 PM

CheezersMember

Ammo, you have your answer. It's the 'Kenny Stabler' rule.

1/24/111:54 PM

artisMember

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Originally posted by The GBP Rules:
The Shields facemask call was one of those classic "made up on the fly" rules that seem to go against GB from time to time. See the Rodgers "unnatural throwing motion" safety against the Vikings in 2008. It was on the drive that they scored the tying TD against Atlanta in the first game.

I have never seen that called on an offensive player before. Peterson does it frequently.

Thing is, if it's a penalty, fine. But call it consistently. The Shields call was one I have never seen in all my years watching football. Forte didn't actually grab Bishop's mask and yank it, but the slow mo shows he had his hand on the mask, and the fingers starting closing on it.

1/24/111:57 PM

StevieMember

Every time I have seen a stiff arm to the face since the Shields penalty, I have turned to my wife and asked where was the penalty flag? I've NEVER seen it called since that one time! Just another example of the fine officiating in the NFL!

1/24/112:10 PM