da Yooper posted:
Proving you don't need a terminal illness to beat death.
Yup, Devante beat death for a first down.
In America it takes death an average of 78 years to stop us. Terrible cover corner.
Besides the injury disaster at WR last year I think people seem to forget that the OL was banged up a lot and their wasn't the depth needed to not expose glaring holes during the season. Throw in a Phat Eddie and it was a disaster all the way across the board. Rodgers looked extremely frustrated from all this. The fact they won 10 games was solely based upon the early season run and lots of luck. Barring injuries again I have every expectation that all the players and coaches involved have the confidence and ability to return the offense to their dominant form. Adams put in the effort last year during the off-season/camp and there is no reason to expect he won't again. His drops are an area of concern and where he needs to prove himself.
The O-line was another example of not playing the guy who could get the job done, at least. Don Barclay had no business being on the field last year, especially at Left Tackle, while the healthy and more athletic JC Tretter sat on the bench. I don't think Lane Taylor is a bad player or anything, but having Sitton try to play left tackle was a head scratcher.
I wonder who called for those changes? Did Campen recommend who should play and where they should play while other guys were out or did MM make that call? If it was the OL coaches, MM should be questioning how competent they are. If it was MM, he should keep out of OL business.
The Sitton LT move was probably based upon the success they had with moving CMIII inside. It seems to me that this kind of move rarely works out, but it did in the latter case so probably clouded the judgement in Sitton's case.
I'm not sure how this coaching staff gets dressed and ties their shoes in the morning before work.
The most surprising thing about Sitton at LT was their normal adherence to disrupting as few positions as possible when substituting, ie: Taylor may be a better player than Barclay, but Barclay is a tackle so when Bakhtiari went down, continuity and protection was best served by inserting Barclay at LT and letting the rest of the O-line work together as normal, rather than switching two guys around.
What do you expect? The coaching staff is a bunch of dumb former players.
I wonder if maybe Adam's injury seriously impacted his game AND of the Packers, due to being so beleaguered at WR, rushed him in and that impacted his mental state.
Sort of like, "You rushed my ass and it caused me to play hurt all year which impacted my effectiveness and I am upset!"
I am of course not insisting on the above, but I think it is plausible.
Let's see a healthy Adams playing with a decent corps of other receivers, hope he is both physically and mentally much better off, and that this translates to a much better season.
YATittle posted:MM is TOO SLOW to change often. Keeping Adams out there last year is a perfect example, as opposed to giving Abby and Janis a shot. WHICH they both made the most of against Arizona in the playoffs.
You, Sir, are a genius! I totally agree, so I guess I'm a genius too.
I think we need to remember that Jordy's injury was serious. While all the feedback of his rehab has been great, it is really speculation and talk right now. And Cobb was injured in the Arizona game, while Montgomery looked like he should have been playing in a wheelchair. So, who knows how close to 100% these guys really are? None of us! At least, not until we see them in T.C., if then.
I'm guessing are top guys are going to be Jordy, Cobb, Monty (IF healthy) Janis (given his Arizona performance) and Trevor Davis. I'm leery of Adams, but certainly hope he proves his worth. I like Abbrederris' chemistry with ARod, but am concerned about how often and easily he has seemed to get injured. If our new tight end is as good as advertised, I think it will help in huge fashion to help the WR's get open. Add some screens to unPhat Eddie and Starks, and I'm starting to get excited here, boys!
Some of you are really underestimating Duhvante.
We also have a couple suspensions to start the season so our initial roster just might have 7 WRs. At least for 4 weeks anyway.
Henry posted:You don't catch with your ankles.
However, you sometimes can with cankles.
RoyalWulff posted:Henry posted:You don't catch with your ankles.
However, you sometimes can with cankles.
This should be on the X4 inside joke thread.
Goalline posted:The kid was killing it in camp until he got hurt.
Yup...I have it from a good source he was injured the whole season and just played through it. He also had the burden of not having #87 on the other side.
It looked like he was finally getting right vs. WAS until bigfoot fell on him and ended his season.
Yeah, he was making some tough catches against the Redskins, and you wonder if Arizona would've been different if he'd still been standing for that game once Cobb went down...
YATittle posted:Yeah, he was making some tough catches against the Redskins, and you wonder if Arizona would've been different if he'd still been standing for that game once Cobb went down...
I'd guess that Janis would have had significantly less targets,
But Janis just needed a chance. The coaches were fools for not letting him play.
RoyalWulff posted:YATittle posted:MM is TOO SLOW to change often. Keeping Adams out there last year is a perfect example, as opposed to giving Abby and Janis a shot. WHICH they both made the most of against Arizona in the playoffs.
I'm guessing are top guys are going to be Jordy, Cobb, Monty (IF healthy) Janis (given his Arizona performance) and Trevor Davis.
Really, I game moves him to #4 on the depth chart? What you gonna do when Janis doesn't make the final 53?
PackFoo posted:Goalline posted:The kid was killing it in camp until he got hurt.
Yup...I have it from a good source he was injured the whole season and just played through it. He also had the burden of not having #87 on the other side.
I would question the "playing through it" descriptor. He ****ing stunk.
Unless he had a Annie Wilkes encounter with his wrist too I'm having a hard time buying into his ankle made him not catch the ball.
Other than Eddie tipping 260. I'm not holding any skill position on offense for failed performance during the 2015 Clements clown parade. **** timing. **** routes. **** plays. **** scheme. Maybe a lot of homer going on but that offense was just ****. There is no way MM allows that hot trash to repeat itself on 2016. Adams will bounce back.
Hungry5 posted:I know that Boris, but it's a hail mary where his athleticism made the difference. And it is his athleticism that makes him an intriguing project at WR and valuable on ST. I was referring to when he was targeted during a set play and his ability to run a clean route is key.
What about the two critical 1st down catches he made during the game? Looked pretty clean to me.
ChilliJon posted:Other than Eddie tipping 260. I'm not holding any skill position on offense for failed performance during the 2015 Clements clown parade. **** timing. **** routes. **** plays. **** scheme. Maybe a lot of homer going on but that offense was just ****. There is no way MM allows that hot trash to repeat itself on 2016. Adams will bounce back.
What is my son doing in your avatar?
oldschool posted:What is my son doing in your avatar?
ChilliJon posted:Other than Eddie tipping 260. I'm not holding any skill position on offense for failed performance during the 2015 Clements clown parade. **** timing. **** routes. **** plays. **** scheme. Maybe a lot of homer going on but that offense was just ****. There is no way MM allows that hot trash to repeat itself on 2016. Adams will bounce back.
James Jones was looking like the best signing ever after Jordy went down. Then defenses basically started playing him like a #1 and everything went right in the ****ing toilet. Couldn't out scheme defenses cover Jones and camping out on the line EVERY ****ING GAME from there out. So definitely **** Clements that ass hat.
BUT because Ankles Adams couldn't even catch a ****ing ball while "toughing it out" it just compounded the Clements offensive genius. I'm surprised Clements didn't think of sending both the slow, old guy and Stumps for Legs on fly routes every play.
Every time I see RR run it reminds me of the Bigfoot video.
I get the "his ankle was hurt" crowd, but his hands weren't broken. He had a lot of drops with or without the jacked up ankle.
The guy has a ton of tallant but I question his effort and motivation. Donald Driver he is not.
My God, you make it sound like you knew Driver was going to be a Packer HOF in his second season. Let's look at his 2nd season: started 2 games, 49 targets, 21 receptions. I'll bet some of those incompletions were drops too. 322 yards, 1 TD. And guess what, his 3rd season was even worse 2 starts, 19 targets with 13 receptions and 1 TD. At least you were right about 1 thing, so far Adams is not Donald Driver and that is a good thing.
More underestimating. Tsk Tsk. ......
Nelson, Cobb & Cook will be taking most of the better DB's, if not all of them.
Do you honestly believe a nickel or dime back can hang with this guy when healthy?
BTW....I didn't even mention Ty Montgomery.
When Dervante starts killing it, we'll be sure & resurrect this thread.
#2011OffenseHereWeCome
And while the secondary is trying to roll that coverage 225lb Eddie Lacy is 10 yards upfield and picking up steam.
Filthy.
He'll be cut, picked up by the Vikings, and they'll win it all because of him. Yeah, Adrian Peterson forgot the part where they need Davantuh to go all the way.
Donald Driver had unreal focus and effort. That's the point. Duhvante needs to step it up or he's just another Boykin.
There's no reason he can't become a very good player and if he does I'll eat plenty of crow.
If Eddie comes back lighter and wants to prove he's legit it will do this offense wonders.
Donald Driver had an Adderall Salt lick on his kitchen table and Ritalin deodorant in his locker.
phaedrus posted:I wonder if maybe Adam's injury seriously impacted his game AND of the Packers, due to being so beleaguered at WR, rushed him in and that impacted his mental state.
Sort of like, "You rushed my ass and it caused me to play hurt all year which impacted my effectiveness and I am upset!
I think this is exactly what happened. At first it was physical, then it became mental. I don't know if it was resentment- maybe just a crisis of confidence.
This coaching staff self-scouts a lot, and there is no way they didn't address this. Adams wwas only in his second year- he'll either learn from it or he'll crumble. The NFL is not for everyone. He may not have what it takes to overcome the mental collapse he experienced.
But if he did, and he comes back 100%? Man, talk about loaded...