There are a lot of baby and 1st year QB’s in the NFL, wow.......fun to watch.
Take the points on the road, dammit! Pittsburgh did just fine taking the points.
Lions doing their best to lose this game
They do play hard every down. I don't see that with MLF teams.
This is a great game. Too bad nobody seems to be watching.
Rams pulling off an upset here would be a welcome relief given the past few days of NFL ball
Rams operating with a third-string Royce Newman at LT against Hutch and might pull this one off. That was a money pass on third down.
I’ve always thought the best comp for Brett Favre is Matt Stafford. Stafford pulling off a masterpiece tonight
Stafford....Goff..... OVERTIME
Lol.....and the Packers are the only NFC North team with a loss
What a dreadful 4 days, which began with the Chiefs winning, FU Brazil/NFLFU®, and the Vikings, Bears, and Cowboys winning and now the Lions as well.
Message to Minny, Chicago and Detroit…..object in your rear view mirror is closer than it appears. Mike Tice.
@lovepack posted:They just play harder than we do.
Vic Ketchman believed defense just wasn't in GB's DNA. Offense has been going all the way back to Dickey/Coffman/Lofton/Jefferson. But no matter what they do, they are doomed never to have a dominant D save a couple meteoric seasons that won them a SB.
@DH13 posted:Vic Ketchman believed defense just wasn't in GB's DNA. Offense has been going all the way back to Dickey/Coffman/Lofton/Jefferson. But no matter what they do, they are doomed never to have a dominant D save a couple meteoric seasons that won them a SB.
The defense is just one or two players away from being dominant. The problem is that those one or two players need to be guys like Reggie White and Charles Woodson. You don't usually get those guys unless you hit a grand slam on a first round pick. R. Gary is more like a hitting a solid double to the gap and Van Ness has not flashed much of anything yet.
The Packers got both White and Woodson as free agents and they are probably two of top 3 free agent signings of all time. I'd say Drew Brees is the only one you could make a debatable argument about being more valuable.
You got anything in the "not actually dealing with reality" category this morning?
@DH13 posted:You got anything in the "not actually dealing with reality" category this morning?
The unfortunate reality is that they despite using 8 first-round picks and 5 second-round picks since 2016 on defensive players they just have not found a true impact game-changing player. They found two lower-level Pro Bowlers (Alexander and Gary), busted on a few picks (Savage, Josh Jones, Josh Jackson), and picked a few other guys that have good to elite athleticism but struggle to consistently use it in game situations (Walker, Wyatt, Van Ness, Stokes, (and Savage)). I'm optimistic that Bullard and Cooper will be solid players from this year's draft class, but it doesn't matter who the DC is and what your scheme is. Sometimes you just have to have an elite player make a play, and that hasn't happened enough on that side of the ball.
We're all too painfully aware of the defense's historical shortcomings and hope springs eternal with a new DC. But that's hedging a lot on one unproven guy and a few assistants. It's just the first game but I really don't know what else they can do at this point. Gute's not going anywhere and this organization is not one to "clean house" really for any reason.
One sliver of hope I have is that, and this may be totally coincidental, considering how much better Gute's drafts have been since AR's departure, maybe just maybe we'll see better defensive talent now. That's all I got. That and the fact that there are 16 more games ahead.
@MichiganPacker2 posted:... You don't usually get those guys unless you hit a grand slam on a first round pick. R. Gary is more like a hitting a solid double to the gap and Van Ness has not flashed much of anything yet....
Continuing the baseball analogy, LVN is Pedro Cerrano.
He can smash a fastball over the middle of the plate, but hasn't been able to hit the curve ball.
@Timmy! posted:Continuing the baseball analogy, LVN is Pedro Cerrano.
He can smash a fastball over the middle of the plate, but hasn't been able to hit the curve ball.
Fuck you Jobu....I do it myself