Packers are cheaters? Say it ain't so!

Entire article is about ticky tack bull $hit fouls.

Let me know when we step up to a DVD  collection of every teams hand signals or jamming the opponents headsets during the game. Thanks Pete

If the Packers are committing penalties, say by constantly holding onto opposing teams' receivers, the referees should throw the flags.

It's a great counter to Seattle constant grabbing past 5 yards off the line and not having it called. 

 

It is illegal, just like the Seahawks defense.  So they can either call it both ways or stfu.

Great stuff Pete. Lots of conclusive reporting here.

 

May be

May be not?

are milliseconds away from being a foul

Sounds like outstanding execution.

it was darn close

 

Again, timing is everything.

you can see what appears to be

It appears, but I'm Pete Prisco so WTF do I know?

another play in which it appears

 

Ditto...

 

 

 

Of course, Pete deferred to an expert for more insight: I discussed this with Brady Quinn 

 

 

It would take some serious timing but it would be fantastic to see defenses try to jump the screen and have one of the blockers break for the reception past the defender.  That would be the kind of magic A Aron could pull off.

 

You can clearly see the ball is just on his fingertips and the receiver is already engaged in a heated game of patty cake.  Pretty egregious and obvious from the picture.  

Here again, the receiver is clearly making eye contact with the defender prior to the catch being made.  Eye contact prior to initiating a block is a violation of international rules of conduct.  Should have been a flag.  

 

Yet again, the receiver is clearly engaged with the opponent and the ball (circled) had not been caught yet.  

 

Breaks my heart, but all evidence shows that the Packers have an unfair advantage over every other team that clearly breaks the rules.  

 

 

Jet fuel can't melt steel beams.

Goes on all the time throughout the league and unless it's really blatant it rarely gets called. I recall the Bears using pick plays extensively in the first game and I think it was only called once.

 

Nearly every other team had a chance at that unfair advantage and decided not to take it... hell, some teams had two chances at it.

 

 

That's good material, Henry!

OK Coach Carroll.  Enough of that.

It doesn't have to melt them.  Just weaken them enough to fail under designed loads. 

Please stop with your fancy science and reason.  We were talking about Prisco.

But if we were going to introduce reason into Prisco's article, it seems there's a basic issue related to the distance beyond the line of scrimmage.  Defenders are allowed to make contact 5 yards past the line of scrimmage but receivers can't block more than 1 yard beyond the line of scrimmage? So in the first picture Prisco is confusing contact initiated by the defender as if it is a block by the receiver.  Look at the body positions to see who has the leverage.  In conclusion, Prisco is an idiot.

 

That was my first thought: Defenders get 5 yards; why do receivers only get 1? And are they really blocking if they are only playing a "heated game of patty cake" as EKB so eloquently put it? 

 

My second thought: Name a team that doesn't do this.

playing WR in high school I got sick of this short DB jamming and harassing me immediately off the line of scrimmage.  wasn't sure about the rules of it but the 3rd time he tried it I knocked him on his ass.  the ref was standing right there and didn't do anything.  I often wondered if it's legal for an NFL WR to take the same approach.

Almost a foul isn't a foul. It's about execution and timing. Obviously Offenses push the limit to what the rules allow(and beyond) which favors the offense. 

 

Wonder if dbag Carroll was whining to the media after watching an offense successfully counter his grab and hold defense. Pussy. 

 

Hopefully we we don't see the league / refs overreact.  

**** Pete Prisco.

 

 

As long as the game is called consistently I don't really care how close it's called. I do wonder if that's something Prisco was fed by a certain team from the Pacific Northwest. Teams have always pushed the limits of pick and rub plays and there's nothing really new or revealing in the piece.

He didn't have to be fed it. I've been hearing game commentators remark about this going back to last season. Fairly positive Collinsworth mentioned it during the SNF game.

unpossible

Inconceivable!

Unconceivable.

This has been a 'knock' against the Packers for several years now.

While I do think Green Bay pushes this envelope more than any other team, they have coached it for years and therefore do it better than any other team.

I don't see any difference between this and pick plays. They are supposedly illegal as well, yet we have seen them for years, and it's rarely--if ever--called by the refs.

 

Besides, this should tie-in with the theory the league wants offensive shows, and rules are too slanted for the offense on pass plays.