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Listened to Mike and Mike this morning and am simply amazed at how the supposed "experts" are jumping on the Giants bandwagon and forgetting what the Packers have done. Their "confidence picks" have the Giants over the Packers this Sunday, and they rated Eli Manning above Aaron Rodgers. I was a little worried about this game....the long layoff and especially with the tragedy that Joe Philbin is going through and how it might affect the players, but now I think the Packers are going to open a giant can of Whoop-ass on NY.

On a side note, they asked Leroy Butler who he thought was better...Favre or Rodgers. He prefaced his response by saying he had won a ring with Favre, and said to this point, he is the better QB.
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surprised to hear that from Leroy. it's not even a contest to me: AR.
AR prepares, executes and takes better care of the ball than bert. Bert was a film study guy so maybe the preparation in that regard is equal.
On NFL Network last night, two of the four guys picked the Giants (one was Marshall Faulk) and they were all dissing the Packer D as the reason for the Pack to lose. A voice of sanity pointed out that the Pack was 15-1.

The blatant disrespect from all quarters should fuel a chip-on-the-shoulder beatdown.

And Favre DOES have more records than Rodgers, but AR can get something Brett never got: a second Super Bowl ring. Something tells me #12 is quite aware of that.
I find it interesting as well that they seem to completely overlook the fact that the Giants defense is ranked pretty low as well. You stop that pass rush and their secondary can be shredded.

Something tells me the Packers team is VERY aware of the lack of respect they are getting.
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Originally posted by packman15:
The Packers are geting no respect at all, I hope the entire team is aware of it!


I assure you all the "talk" coming from New York is posted in the Packers locker room.

I'm going to describe the 2011 Packers in one word - Poised and all the talk from New York leads me to believe the Giants know it. When you have a poised, championship football team that's healthy & now motivated....look out.

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Originally posted by YATittle:
A voice of sanity pointed out that the Pack was 15-1.


I watched "No Huddle" too. Jalen Rose (who I'm really starting to like his analysis) and Charles Davis picked the Packers. Faulk & Willie McGinest picked the Giants but at least McGinest's choice had some sound reasoning. What happened to Faulk? He's terrible now.

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AR can get something Brett never got: a second Super Bowl ring. Something tells me #12 is quite aware of that.


He's very aware of it. He stated numerous times he wants to be a multiple Super Bowl champion like Joe Montana or Tom Brady.

"He (Rodgers) doesn't get bored making the easy completion." - Mike McCarthy
You know it is possible for a D to improve at the end of the year, especially when some key guys get healthy, right? Same with their running game. I'm not saying the Packers can't improve in the playoffs too but people pointing to the Giants poor running and poor D ranking for the regular season seem to think only last year's Packers were capable improvement.
According to what I've heard on the radidio lately: A few weeks back the Giants D and run game was lousy... then in 3 weeks their D is now playing great and they have the run game going again. I guess the Packers can't do this.
I don't know why this is surprising or upsetting to people. The Giants could field a team of trustees from Rahway State Prison and most media outlets would be on their bandwagon. ESPN's HQ is a 90-minute drive from the Giants' HQ. What do you expect?

The number has dropped from 9.5 to 7.5, so clearly a lot of people are sold on little Eli and his friends. Let them kid themselves. We'll just be here under the radar, holding off on the tough talk until Sunday night. The "no respect" angle flatters no one.
Not surprised nor upset by the media's angles. I really hope Tebow beats the Pats... GB would the most under the radar defending champs getting ready to play in a conference title game ever!
Greeny picking the Giants is a guaranteed lock for Green Bay.

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Jalen Rose...


He's on NFL network now? He was solid on Worst Take and in NBA analysis. Didn't know he was covering football too.
What burned me is ranking Elite Ellie over Rodgers. Interceptions AR---6 EE--16. Advantage Rodgers!! Rushing AR--60 attempts 257 yards EE--35 attempts 15 yards Advantage Rodgers!!! Yards per passing attempts AR--9.25 EE--8.37 Advantage Rodgers!!!

Now they did say they did their picks factored in what D the QB was going against. So it would be Rodgers vs the 27th ranked Giants D or Ellie vs. the 32 ranked Packers D. C'mon MAN!!!!!
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Originally posted by YATittle:
On NFL Network last night, two of the four guys picked the Giants (one was Marshall Faulk) and they were all dissing the Packer D as the reason for the Pack to lose. A voice of sanity pointed out that the Pack was 15-1.


I hope CMIII sees that segment. During it, a voice of reason (I don't recall his name) picked the Packers and suggested that Clay will make a big play to help win the game. Marshall Faulk's response: "Who? Number 52? Has he even played this year? I didn't even realize he had suited up this year."

I know that these guys are professionals, and they may not need such material to get motivated. But I ask you, how can they not be motivated by the lack of respect they are getting? The defending champs coming off a 15-1 season (best season ever by the defending champs), and everyone is asking like we are going to roll over. **** that.
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Originally posted by Boris:
I watched "No Huddle" too.


I really like that show. Just a bunch of guys who really know football talking football in a relatively extemporaneous manner. It's not that pre-fabbed, scripted crappola that fills the pre-game, post-game and 'analysis' shows I never watch.
Giants D gave up at least 50 more points than Packers.

****.q the experts. Atlanta's D held the Giants to numerous 3 and outs in the first quarter on the road. Lambeau faithful has to bring it and bring it loud.
I just picked Packers over Giants 31-20, HOWEVER some of these posts seem to me to lack objectivity.

For example, I don't know how many posts I saw touting how much of an improvement Neal would make to the Packer's defense. (This was a few weeks ago.)

Meanwhile, how many posts on this board, in referring to the statistics of the Giants defense, have tempered their posts with: "By the way, DL Tuck is now healthy and DL Umenyiora has returned." I also think I heard one of their DB's returned.

You can bet your bottom dollar that if the Packers defense underwent a similar shift, we'd hear about it.

This IS a better Giants defense. Significantly.
Leroy Butler was definitely not being a homer this morning. Golic asked him if the Pack's defensive stats could be misleading because they had so many blowout games where teams were picking up yardage in garbage time. Leroy said "no, they really are bad."

I think the defense comes up huge this week.
Marshall took too many shots to the head during his playing days. Dude taking Eli over Rodgers because of the game Flynn had, now says he's taking the Giants over the Packers because the Packers D was #32 in the NFL(yet ignores the Giants giving up 41 more points than the Packers D and forced less turnovers)


last I checked, all that matters is points scored and points against. Nobody scored more points than GB and their points against was middle of the league, which is good enough with this offense

Look forward to see what Dom dials up this weekend. Perhaps some new looks and moving Clay around a bit more to free him up, maybe? Last year he didn't use the corner blitz much at all during the year, yet come playoff time he unleashed that thing quite often with great success.
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Originally posted by YATittle:
On NFL Network last night, two of the four guys picked the Giants (one was Marshall Faulk) and they were all dissing the Packer D as the reason for the Pack to lose. A voice of sanity pointed out that the Pack was 15-1.

The blatant disrespect from all quarters should fuel a chip-on-the-shoulder beatdown.

And Favre DOES have more records than Rodgers, but AR can get something Brett never got: a second Super Bowl ring. Something tells me #12 is quite aware of that.


I watched Inside the Huddle too, and you know what really frustrated me, was Faulk asking if the Claymaker had played this year? Clay's numbers aren't great, becuase he is being double-teamed, and up to a month ago, he was still leading the league in QB hits and hurries?

Faulk saying that, just ruined all credibility I had for the guy.
What? No respect??!!




I picked up on this latest media trend last week after the Giants beat the Cowboys and then handled the Falcons with little trouble.

I think it hilarious that so many "heads" point to the bad game the Packers had vs KC. And then fail to point out all the bad games the G-Men had in mid-season and how that all has seemed to fade away now.

Granted, it is not how well your team is playing the beginning or middle of the season, it is how well your team is playing at the end of the season.

The Giants are playing good, no doubt. But so are the Packers. Folks appear to have forgotten they beat the Lions with 1/3 of their starting lineup on the bench.

So all this NYG bandwagon talk ain't bothering me.
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Originally posted by The GBP Rules:
Greeny picking the Giants is a guaranteed lock for Green Bay.


LMAO!! He did that on purpose since he's a Jets fan. hahahah

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Originally posted by The GBP Rules:
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Jalen Rose...


He's on NFL network now? He was solid on Worst Take and in NBA analysis. Didn't know he was covering football too.


Yes, he's been on a couple shows. He was on No Huddle last night, a show I watch every week.

Giants, Packer kryptonite?
Half the guys we dress were 6th or 7th round draft choices or weren't drafted at all.

They thrive on no respect. They thrive with chips on their shoulders. AR has always felt dissed going back to Junior College. The Philbin tragedy just gives them more TEAM motivation. (Peace be with you Philbins.)

The Eastern media is who we thought they were. Snobs who couldn't care less about flyover country.

We've got them right where we want them.
It just doesn't matter.

On Leroy... That's just a stupid take. Personal feelings aside about Favre, he was a tremendous football player for many years in in GB. But the reality is that AR, right now, is better than Favre ever was.
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Originally posted by PackerRuss:
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Originally posted by YATittle:
On NFL Network last night, two of the four guys picked the Giants (one was Marshall Faulk) and they were all dissing the Packer D as the reason for the Pack to lose. A voice of sanity pointed out that the Pack was 15-1.

The blatant disrespect from all quarters should fuel a chip-on-the-shoulder beatdown.

And Favre DOES have more records than Rodgers, but AR can get something Brett never got: a second Super Bowl ring. Something tells me #12 is quite aware of that.


I watched Inside the Huddle too, and you know what really frustrated me, was Faulk asking if the Claymaker had played this year? Clay's numbers aren't great, becuase he is being double-teamed, and up to a month ago, he was still leading the league in QB hits and hurries?

Faulk saying that, just ruined all credibility I had for the guy.


faulk has been consistently a leading Tebow hater. Where's Tebow now, faulk?????? It's great faulk picks the Giants. One of the best counter-indicator there is.
There is nothing surprising about the Giants love from the national media. First the analyst job is to get ratings not be right, New York is the biggest media market so they will stroke Giants fans. Second they are mostly from New York, so they know the local teams the best. And finally it has been almost two weeks since the Packers last played, you cannot expect the media to remember things from two weeks ago.
I think the Giants are one of the hottest teams in the league right now... having won 3 straight. Their last loss was Dec. 18th vs WAS (in NY). GB on the other hand has only won 2 straight.
Leroy is loyal to a fault. One of the things that's so great about him. Wish he could get on the payroll somehow. After McKenzie left, I hope there's room in the personnel dept. so he can work himself up.

Packer People through and through.
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Originally posted by who:
If the offensive line blocks for Rodgers, no one is going to beat the Packers. Period. Not the Giants, not the Saints, and not New England. Don't forget the Ravens! Everything else is just stupid.


Fixed.

I believe the Super Bowl will be Baltimore vs. Green Bay & it will be a helluva game. I hope we come out on top!

I agree with you, everything else is just stupid.
Just heard Mark Schlereth say the Rodgers turns off his Twitter acct during the season because he does not want to be distracted or be a distraction for and on the team.

Agreed on the oline. Both "O" and "D" lines performance will be key for the Packers.
I don't care what the media is saying either. Fact is NYG running game and D are playing better the last 3 weeks than their regular season ranking would suggest. Not that it spells their doom but I wish I could say the same about the Packers D.
Packers D (when they had to have it) held the Bears to practically nothing.

Granted that was Josh McCown and Kahlil Bell.

Woodson & Matthews on the sideline vs. the Lions.

I guess we'll just have to pray we outscore the Giants because our defense obviously doesn't have the players to execute the defensive plan properly.
They also shut down this same ATL offense in their dome. Folks tend to forget that as well. I don't trust the D to do much more than make some plays and do what needs to be done to give the offense every opportunity to win with extra possessions, but I think this 'GB's defense is utterly incapable of playing well' idea is getting a bit out of hand as well.
Last year the D carried the day in the playoffs. This year the O will carry the day in the playoffs and next year it will be out ST!!!! Our D is not great, but our O is, and MM plays to that strength.

I think the loss of Collins has affected the D, and has not allowed CWood to play the "tiger" backer position that he played last year. He doesn't come with the pressure that he did last year, and I think that's attributable to Collins loss.

Either way, the D plays good enough, to let the O put the game away.

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