Packers RB moves to 2nd place in NFL....

Who needed another RB?

Yet he wasn't given the ball in Atlanta or Detroit despite being healthy.

MM is too dumb...

He's no RB, he's a full back.

He brings us a lot of respect.

Can't respect that 3rd down conversion factor, he would not be needed if Jackson would simply pick up an extra yard on 2nd down.

80 carries is not a whole lot. At a 5.0 yard per carry clip, that would be 400 yards. I think the results are fairly tempered by factoring in things like the small number of total carries. My guess is, if Kuhn were an every down back, the numbers would be less impressive.

I like Kuhn, but just think the total carry number is significant.

WTF are you talking about?

He is not supposed to be an every down back.

He has a role (2 roles actually when you consider ST) and he delivers....period.

Urlacher has more tackles

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His name and performance have appealed to Packers fans all season.

Actually fans at the stadium and on X4 have been screaming KUUUUUUUHHNN last year and the year before as well whenever he does something good. It's not just this year, Kuhn has been a fan favorite for awhile.

phaedrus......

Dude.

If I said sunny days were nice, would you come back with, "Yeah, but they make me squint."?

Jerome Bettis' last year in the game.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/...profile?playerId=389

110 carries with less than 400 yards. Yet, some people would call him efficient with what needed to be done when they won the Super Bowl.

Phaedrus...

He's 2nd in the NFL among RB's with at least 25 1st downs. His carries have nothing to do with it.

When he gets the ball he pounds the rock and moves the chains. He can only do what MM gives him.

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Originally posted by Blair Kiel:
phaedrus......

Dude.

If I said sunny days were nice, would you come back with, "Yeah, but they make me squint."?

I believe the Packers continue to have a less than average running game. If you peruse my posts, you'll be able to find plenty of posts where I do not write as I did wrt this topic.

Without a condom,I just didn't think I should be "perusing" here.

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Originally posted by ammo:
He's no RB, he's a full back.

If Tampa Bay's Alstott was a Tailback...then Kuhn can be one, too...

so there

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Originally posted by Blair Kiel:
Without a condom,I just didn't think I should be "perusing" here.

I'd love to be wrong.

And maybe I am.

And you are (this time).

Gebins for allowing for the possibility.

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Originally posted by FreeSafety:
WTF are you talking about?

He is not supposed to be an every down back.

He has a role (2 roles actually when you consider ST) and he delivers....period.

Yep.

He won me over in the preseason.

It's good to see the coaching staff (finally) start to use him more often in situations that play to his strengths.

He's money in short yardage, and you can you use him as a tailback to hammer at the end of games with a lead.

The ball security (knock on wood) between him, Jackson, and the other backs has to be at (or near) the top of the league.

No true "home run" threats, but still a good group of solid backs that can also catch the ball well, pick up a blitz, and can also keep a defense honest and move the chains when given the opportunity.

I love Kuhn but wish the Packers had a back with some quickness to complement him.

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He's money in short yardage, and you can you use him as a tailback to hammer at the end of games with a lead.

Just curious. Who did the Packer's run on the pivotal short yardage carries against the Falcons.

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Originally posted by Herschel:
I love Kuhn but wish the Packers had a back with some quickness to complement him.

Right now we have a good 3rd down back and a good short yardage back. Nance also looks like a power back. I wonder if we could wear defenses down with Nance/Kuhn, but it hasn't happened yet.

I don't think we'll have a RB with homerun ability unless Starks miraculously turns it on in practice and then in the playoffs. In the meantime, the Packers should keep pounding it like they have the last two games to keep the defenses honest. Maybe we'll draft/acquire a quicker, more versatile RB in the off-season, but we're going to have the ride the horses we've got until next season.

Kuhn is an easy guy to love... blue collar, big lumbering guy, not flashy and productive. But a quality NFL RB he is not. He's a FB that's doing a great job with some opportunities, but the Packers sure need to do better if they want to balance out the offense.

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Originally posted by CJS:

Right now we have a good 3rd down back and a good short yardage back.

I don't think we'll have a RB with homerun ability unless Starks miraculously turns it on in practice and then in the playoffs. In the meantime, the Packers should keep pounding it like they have the last two games to keep the defenses honest. Maybe we'll draft/acquire a quicker, more versatile RB in the off-season, but we're going to have the ride the horses we've got until next season.

Three months late to the party, but congrats.

I still hate BJax running on early downs, so I don't think I'm all the way there for you Coach.

An excellent role player that assumed the position of fan favorite vacated by Havner.

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Originally posted by phaedrus:

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He's money in short yardage, and you can you use him as a tailback to hammer at the end of games with a lead.

Just curious. Who did the Packer's run on the pivotal short yardage carries against the Falcons.

Nance (before his concussion) and Rodgers.

Why Kuhn wasn't used is inexplicable to me.

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Originally posted by CJS:
I still hate BJax running on early downs, so I don't think I'm all the way there for you Coach.

Nobody said you had to.

Fortunately, what you do or don't "hate" has no bearing whatsoever on the effectiveness of the offense (including play action which isn't supposed to work when a team has crappy, crappy backs like we do).

It appears that MM has finally figured out how best utilize his backs (it seemed to finally gel @ New England), and the OL is playing better since the Detroit debacle.

Both of those factors combined bodes well for our post-season chances.

Since the NE game I've felt like our running game is more of an enforcer role with the bonus of yards. The running plays are so the OLine and our FBs can beat up on the defense - getting yardage is a bonus. And I'm loving it. If Quinn/Kuhn/Nance can get some early licks on Urlacher and Briggs and actually inflict some pain I think we'll see the bores fold up the tent pretty quick. That's a pretty big if but it would be beautiful.

Those are some nice numbers, albeit a small sample. The running game has been much improved as the weather has gotten worse. The backs are making better cuts/harder cuts (IMO) and M3 seems to be using it more as well. Still a very weak group of NFL RBs and needs to be improved next season.

Anybody notice Jackson seems to run into his blocker alot?

http://seattletimes.nwsource.c...13798679_hawk30.html

Seahawks running game on verge of franchise-worst season

RENTON — The Seahawks are running out of time in this season, and they're running out of options on an offense that is preparing Charlie Whitehurst to start the most important game of the season.

The one thing Seattle is not running? The football. At least not effectively.

That has been the one miserable constant this year, something that was as true when the Seahawks were 4-2 as it is now that they've lost seven of the past nine games.

Marshawn, Breno (cut twice currently on 53 man roster), and Barbre doll (cut) have not been able to turn this around yet.

Nail in the coffin. You would think the respect yards add up.

Not Lynch's fault. The sample size is too large.

I'd still love Lynch in green and gold.

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Originally posted by phaedrus:

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He's money in short yardage, and you can you use him as a tailback to hammer at the end of games with a lead.

Just curious. Who did the Packer's run on the pivotal short yardage carries against the Falcons.

I checked and Kuhn had zero carries. Jackson averaged 2.6 yards/carry and Nance had one carry for zero yards.

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Originally posted by chickenboy:
I'd still love Lynch in green and gold.

Is a third rounder still a fair price?

I'd still do it.

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I'd still love Lynch in green and gold.

leave that %@#!* horse alone!

Hey, I didn't give CPR to that horse? I'm just rehabbing it.