Packers receivers still dropping the ball

18c3vMember

Drop rate by QB

Rodgers has the third highest drop rate in the NFL. Why do the GB receivers drop so many passes? It seems like they do this every year.

11/22/128:11 AM

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YATittleMember

From that site: On 26.0% of the plays the Packers get pressure on the quarterback, they end up sacking him, which is the highest rate in the league.

11/22/128:13 AM

justanotherpackerfanMember

Obviously, Rodgers holds the ball to long and when he does throw it, it has some kind of weird uncatchable spin.

11/22/128:22 AM

EsoxMember

Other than Finley our receivers are not the problem!

11/22/1211:36 AM

titmfatiedNo Code

quote:
Originally posted by YATittle:
From that site: On 26.0% of the plays the Packers get pressure on the quarterback, they end up sacking him, which is the highest rate in the league.

For all the crap Capers takes about his defense fading he deserves a lot of credit for scheming up that kind of percentage with the personnel he has to work with this year.

11/22/1211:46 AM

bubbleboy789Member

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Originally posted by Esox:
Other than Finley our receivers are not the problem!

Not true. Nelson and Cobb each have 7 drops, same as Finley.

11/22/1212:41 PM

EsoxMember

I watched all the games and most of those drops were due to the throws! That's a big difference.

11/22/1212:52 PM

IronMember

quote:
Originally posted by bubbleboy789:
quote:
Originally posted by Esox:
Other than Finley our receivers are not the problem!

Not true. Nelson and Cobb each have 7 drops, same as Finley.

Difference is Finley only has 1/10th the number of balls thrown to him

11/22/1212:53 PM

EsoxMember

in addition, the # of drops have no meaning to me with out a rate - like drops/targets.

11/22/1212:55 PM

EsoxMember

You beat me to my point Iron

11/22/1212:56 PM

GrainBelt66Formerly PinG

quote:
Originally posted by bubbleboy789:
quote:
Originally posted by Esox:
Other than Finley our receivers are not the problem!

Not true. Nelson and Cobb each have 7 drops, same as Finley.

do not only look at one set of numbers. how many times were they targeted?
i think there is a big difference if Finley has 7 drops in 40 targets compared to Cobb/Nelson with 90 targets. pulled those target numbers out of my **s, ok. i have no idea how often they were targeted. but i am willing to bet the farm that finley has as many drops as Cobb/Nelson in less than half the targets...

11/22/121:01 PM

GrainBelt66Formerly PinG

quote:
Originally posted by Esox:
You beat me to my point Iron

you both beat me, stupid fat fingers........

11/22/121:03 PM

FreeSafetyI wonder what the poor people are doing?

quote:
Originally posted by Esox:
Other than Finley our receivers are not the problem!

Packers as a team have the 3rd highest drop rate in the league.

That ain't all on Finley if he is getting a smaller number of targets.

You can't argue that Finley is the main problem and then also say Finley has far fewer targets than everybody else. That makes no sense if the team has the 3rd worst percentage. If other guys are getting most of the targets, they must also be dropping quite a few balls to keep the team that high on the list.

11/23/128:25 AM

FreeSafetyI wonder what the poor people are doing?

quote:
Originally posted by PinG:
quote:
Originally posted by bubbleboy789:
quote:
Originally posted by Esox:
Other than Finley our receivers are not the problem!

Not true. Nelson and Cobb each have 7 drops, same as Finley.

do not only look at one set of numbers. how many times were they targeted?
i think there is a big difference if Finley has 7 drops in 40 targets compared to Cobb/Nelson with 90 targets. pulled those target numbers out of my **s, ok. i have no idea how often they were targeted. but i am willing to bet the farm that finley has as many drops as Cobb/Nelson in less than half the targets...

It was stated above that Finley, Cobb and Nelson all have 7 drops.

Finley has 32 receptions + his 7 drops = 39 legit targets with a drop rate of 18%

Nelson has 43 receptions + his 7 drops = 50 legit targets with a drop rate of 14%

Cobb has 54 receptions + his 7 drops = 61 legit targets with a drop rate of 11.5%

Where is this farm located?

11/23/128:37 AM

FreeSafetyI wonder what the poor people are doing?

If Finley was as awesome as Cobb and only had a 11.5% drop rate, it would reduce the Packers' number of drops by 2.5 drops. That would move the Packers as a team from 3rd worst to 6th worst team in the NFL at catching the football.

Never let facts get in the way of a good Finley bashing.

11/23/128:49 AM

"We"-Ka-BongYou ungrateful biscuit eating son of a bitch

I bet the other TE's that should be starting in front of Finley don't have any drops.

11/23/129:32 AM

GoallineLarge Antenna

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Originally posted by FreeSafety:

You can't argue that Finley is the main problem and then also say Finley has far fewer targets than everybody else.

Well, if he is dropping the ball as often as the other receivers on far fewer targets, then he is the main problem, no? That means his drop percentage is higher than the other receivers. Drops happen, but Finley's seem to happen on third down, the down on which the QB relies most on the TE.

11/23/129:37 AM

FreeSafetyI wonder what the poor people are doing?

Correct, I worded that wrong. I should have said only problem instead of main problem.

If Finley had 0 drops this season the Packers' drop % would be 6.78% and make them the 14th worst team in the NFL. Still in the bottom half of the league.

Nelson also has several 3rd down drops this year.

11/23/129:39 AM

GoallineLarge Antenna

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Originally posted by El-Ka-Bong:
I bet the other TE's that should be starting in front of Finley don't have any drops.

DJ Williams has only droppeed 2 balls. So much better than Finley. Start him!!!

11/23/129:40 AM

PackLandVAMember

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Originally posted by Goalline:

DJ Williams has only dropped 2 balls.

Is this not generally the case for ALL adult males? Is there a mysterious third for Mr. Williams? Are we expecting DJ to have some sort of "Newton's Cradle" downstairs at some point?

Curious minds want to know!

11/23/1210:03 AM

CUPackFanMember

This has always been a problem and I've wondered why, since Jennings, Nelson, Jones and Finley were supposed to all have great hands. Only thing I can think of is that the focus on YAC is getting these guys to focus on running after the catch and not focusing on the actual catch.

Other than turnovers and blown coverages, drops are what limits this team's ceiling (ie: the Giants game last year). When they don't drop the ball, they're unstoppable. But it only takes a one drop to kill a drive. When it happens 3-4 times a game, that's 3-4 TD/FG's that never happen, which can be 20+ points. They need to hang on to the ball.

11/23/1210:43 AM

GoallineLarge Antenna

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Originally posted by PackLandVA:
quote:
Originally posted by Goalline:

DJ Williams has only dropped 2 balls.

Is this not generally the case for ALL adult males? Is there a mysterious third for Mr. Williams? Are we expecting DJ to have some sort of "Newton's Cradle" downstairs at some point?

Curious minds want to know!

You make a good point, sir.

11/23/1210:58 AM

GoallineLarge Antenna

quote:
Originally posted by CUPackFan:
This has always been a problem and I've wondered why, since Jennings, Nelson, Jones and Finley were supposed to all have great hands. Only thing I can think of is that the focus on YAC is getting these guys to focus on running after the catch and not focusing on the actual catch.

Other than turnovers and blown coverages, drops are what limits this team's ceiling (ie: the Giants game last year). When they don't drop the ball, they're unstoppable. But it only takes a one drop to kill a drive. When it happens 3-4 times a game, that's 3-4 TD/FG's that never happen, which can be 20+ points. They need to hang on to the ball.

Maybe AR throws a less than catchable ball.

11/23/1210:59 AM