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Packers 2nd year players an experienced group

 

Whether the plan really was to select six consecutive defensive players likely will be left for memoirs, but the infusion of young talent went a long way in the Packers’ jump to 11th in total defense.

 

Although first-round linebacker Nick Perry and second-round defensive lineman Jerel Worthy didn’t provide immediate relief, second-round cornerback Casey Hayward and fourth-round safety Jerron McMillian proved to be the leaders of the group.

 

The pair of defensive backs wound up playing more snaps (1,580) than the defensive rookies on the San Francisco 49ers, Washington Redskins and Atlanta Falcons combined (903).

 

Among teams that qualified for the NFL playoffs, Hayward and McMillian led a collection of rookie defenders who registered the most total snaps (3,487, including special teams) and the second-most defensive snaps (2,597) behind New England (2,608).

 

“If you look at last year’s class, the first thing that really jumps off the charts is how many plays they played,” Packers coach Mike McCarthy said. “Experience is there. Those guys played a lot of football last year. We improved as a defense particularly when the young guys were in there. That’s a credit to the younger players.”

 

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The maturation of that young talent is one of the reasons the Packers believe big things are in store for Year 2.

 

The pride of the class was Hayward, who was a candidate for defensive rookie of the year after registering 53 tackles with six interceptions last season, but McMillian also more than held his own.

 

Upon his arrival in Green Bay, McMillian understood he and the other rookies would be counted on to add a jolt to the defense, especially considering the organization decided to cut veteran Charlie Peprah the day before the team reconvened for camp.“If they throw you in the fire, that means you know what’s going on,” said McMillian, who finished with 27 tackles, five pass deflections and one interception. “You know your playbook. Now, it’s can you apply it. How fast can you apply it and are you smart enough to be able to do it at a fast pace? That’s the biggest adjustment right now and going into my second year I’m feeling more comfortable doing it.”

 

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“I’ve always felt that players make the biggest improvement from Year 1 to Year 2,” defensive coordinator Dom Capers said. “Certainly when you look at the group and the number of plays those guys played last year, the fact that they were just getting started with us last year and a lot of them have a lot of plays under their belt. I think that will be a real asset to them. You can just the see the confidence level, they’ve been in the system for a year and so I like our young guys.

Also mentioned is Dez Moses who played some 643 snaps as well. This group of players may be 2nd year players on paper, but my guess is that they sure won't be playing like it.

 

 

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I can't wait for the graphic when they show us as one of the youngest teams in the NFL, knowing the Packers probably lead the league in the more important "young and experienced" category. 

 

Ted is masterful in gearing up for the next 3-5 year window right in his star players peak performance years.

 

Sprinkling in a couple of young talented RB's, right now, could be the master stroke.

 

The threat of a ground game and the balance it brings, could really provide leverage for the offense and defense with shorter fields and extended drives in which we can't be stopped unless WE fail to execute.

 

If we execute we will slash, pound and dish the ball in a maddening stretch of the field vertical and horizontal that can not be stopped. It will give us a rested defense that can play on it's toes instead of its heals, attacking, and having fun.

 

I'm as excited as I've ever been for this team. With a little luck we have a delicious 3-5 year window ahead of us.

I was not aware of those guys - with the expection of Moses - collecting so many regular season snaps.  I knew they played at times, just not as much as these stats indicate.  But this should be good for the Packers. 

 

Now, if Worthy could come back we might have something.  But my suspicion is that he will miss most if not the whole season. 

"The threat of a ground game and the balance it brings, could really provide leverage for the offense and defense with shorter fields and extended drives in which we can't be stopped unless WE fail to execute."

 

And the thing is, the RB position is the position that rookies usually have the most impact.

I'd say 6....Tramon Williams, make that 7...Nick Collins.

Also Pickett was vastly underrated on the DL

I still can't believe that team was only 10-6 but at least they got it done when it mattered.
If Jones, Perry, and Jones fill their positions with quality reps, just about everyone looks better. Your stars are better, your Howard Greens are better, your rookies look better... If that front 7 looks more like the Blitzburgh D, they'll be one of the league's best.
Originally Posted by Tdog:

I'd say we had four: Bishop.  Make that five:  Cullen Jenkins

Cullen Jenkins did nothing down the stretch. He was hurt much of the year and missed quite a few games. 

 

Bishop a difference maker? Man, the bar is pretty low in GB if Desmond was a "difference maker".

Jenkins was an impact performer. He missed the last 3 or 4 games of 2010, but returned for the playoffs and did really well. He got a ton of pressure from his DE spot, maybe he didn't get the sack numbers but I would argue pressures are just as important a stat, and really opened things up for Clay and Raji. I think that's clear because Raji and everyone at the OLB spot opposite Clay haven't had the same impact since Jenkins left. So yeah I count him as an impact performer. 

 

Collins has been what this D has been missing the last 2 years. He was the QB for the D and the void left by him has been obvious. Collins, Jenkins, Woodson, and CM3 were the truly impact players for the D in 2010. 

 

Bishop made some highlight reel plays, but I think views of him get skewed because of how different his style is compared to Hawk and Barnett, who he replaced. He's a thumper whereas Barnett was more of a speedy finesse player as is Hawk. And that's what we wanted to see, the defense shift from less finesse to more aggressive with big hits. I don't count him as an impact player, but he certainly was a major contributor and his fumble recovery in the SB was certainly an impact play. 

Originally Posted by FLPACKER:

We need some defenders to emerge as "difference makers" During our last SB run we had three, Matthews, Woodson, & Raji. Last season Matthews was the only defender that played to that level. 

IMHO and in no particular order, guys who could fit the bill as "difference makers" in 2013:

 

CMIII. (enough said).

Casey Hayward. (really has tremendous ball skills and a feel where the pass is coming from. Potential is there for a break out season)

Datone Jones. Yes he's a rook. But so was CMIII and in his rookie year he was already blowing up OL's.

B.J. Raji. (contract year. Will have a healthy Big Grease, Datone Jones, and Mike Neal for 16 games along side him. He hasn't had that type of depth/tallent's since 2010).

Morgan Burnett. Entering his 4th year. Same year Collins and Sharper made their 1st Pro Bowl

Question is, can these guys stop the run, and can this team stay relatively healthy. I hope the experience will benefit them in this area.

 

I really don't want to see Kaperdick run all over the Packers again, not to mention Adrian Peterson.

Originally Posted by Grave Digger:

Jenkins was an impact performer. He missed the last 3 or 4 games of 2010, but returned for the playoffs and did really well. He got a ton of pressure from his DE spot, maybe he didn't get the sack numbers but I would argue pressures are just as important a stat, and really opened things up for Clay and Raji. I think that's clear because Raji and everyone at the OLB spot opposite Clay haven't had the same impact since Jenkins left. So yeah I count him as an impact performer. 

 

 

Can't agree on Jenkins. His 2010 year was anything but impact. He was hobbled by a broken hand early and a pulled calf for 3/4 of the year. After week 4 he was a shell of his former self including being completely off the stat sheet in the SB. 

 

He did get a couple sacks v. a terrible SF team at Lambeau late in the year but SF ran Troy Smith out as QB. 

 

Look at it this way. The guy did get 7 sacks that season. 4 in the 1st 4 games but those sacks were also more than 50% of all his tackles (13). He was OK early in the year but he wasn't anything later in the year. He couldn't move like he did before.

Yeah. You're pretty wrong about that, actually. And you're wrong about Desmond Bishop. Both were fantastic in 2010 and were a big reason why the Packers defense ranked 2nd in the NFL. 

 

Jenkins dominated the Bears in the NFCC and Bishop was outstanding in the SB. 

He was OK early in the year but he wasn't anything later in the year.

somebody needs to go back and watch the playoff games v Philly, Atlanta and Chicago.  and for further enlightenment look up some articles about what offensive linemen for those teams had to say about Cullen Jenkins.

Originally Posted by Grave Digger:

Jenkins was an impact performer. He missed the last 3 or 4 games of 2010, but returned for the playoffs and did really well. .... 

 

Collins has been what this D has been missing the last 2 years. He was the QB for the D and the void left by him has been obvious. Collins, Jenkins, Woodson, and CM3 were the truly impact players for the D in 2010. 

 

Bishop made some highlight reel plays, but I think views of him get skewed because of how different his style is compared to Hawk and Barnett, who he replaced. He's a thumper whereas Barnett was more of a speedy finesse player as is Hawk. And that's what we wanted to see, the defense shift from less finesse to more aggressive with big hits. I don't count him as an impact player, but he certainly was a major contributor and his fumble recovery in the SB was certainly an impact play. 

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