Pass Defense

FLPACKERMember

Aikman was absolutely correct. Why in the world we play zone I don't know. No jamming receivers & rerouting off line of scrimmage, guys looking confused over assignments. When we can't get much of a pass rush, good QB's pick us apart.

9/30/126:56 PM

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slowmoMember

The played zone because the Saints run a lot of pick plays out of bunch sets, so they didn't want to give up a big play with a DB getting picked in tight man to man.

9/30/127:21 PM

BadgemanMember

Well, whatever defense they play they didn't play it very well today. The middle of the field was wide effing open all day. How many 3rd and double digits did Brees convert today? Ridiculous.

Very exciting game and glad the Packers could overcome this week's version of NFL officiating and win.

9/30/127:29 PM

hntr74Member

compers over thought this one.. continue with what was working the last 2 weeks.. man on man aggressive D. This afternoon reminded me of the san fran game all over.. Have to tip your cap to the Saints OL tho.. they stone walled most of any pass rush the pack brought.

9/30/127:49 PM

Timmy!TIMMAAAAYYY!!

I was hoping some of you can recall the defensive plan from last year's game vs the Saints; was it same/similar to this year or different?
Whatever the case, the results were similar. It wasn't as high-scoring, of course, and our defense played better compared to last year, but it was still a game dominated by offense again.

9/30/128:27 PM

FLPACKERMember

quote:
Originally posted by hntr74:
compers over thought this one.. continue with what was working the last 2 weeks.. man on man aggressive D. This afternoon reminded me of the san fran game all over.. Have to tip your cap to the Saints OL tho.. they stone walled most of any pass rush the pack brought.

...agree

9/30/129:03 PM

FLPACKERMember

quote:
Originally posted by slowmo:
The played zone because the Saints run a lot of pick plays out of bunch sets, so they didn't want to give up a big play with a DB getting picked in tight man to man.

....gave up 435 yards, doesn't get much worse than that

9/30/129:03 PM

CavetoadHuge Member

W is a W.

Fortunately we won't see a QB like that again until Houston.

9/30/129:08 PM

Grave DiggerMember

Did you all watch the game? Brews was getting the ball out lightning fast. We couldn't get any pressure which leads to terrible DB play. Shields looks fine when the pressure is there, but when you give a top 5 QB time to find his receivers then yes Sam Shields, Tramon Williams, etc all looks weak. If we come out and pressure Andrew Luck next week like crazy and we rack up 4 INTs, does that mean our pass defense is fixed? No it means we got great pressure and forced mistakes.

I don't care if Drew Brees throws for 400, 500, of 1000 yards, yardage stats mean nothing. We got a stop when we needed it and we won the game. Why can't that be enough?

9/30/129:24 PM

Randy MossMember

quote:
Originally posted by Grave Digger:
Did you all watch the game? Brews was getting the ball out lightning fast. We couldn't get any pressure which leads to terrible DB play. Shields looks fine when the pressure is there, but when you give a top 5 QB time to find his receivers then yes Sam Shields, Tramon Williams, etc all looks weak. If we come out and pressure Andrew Luck next week like crazy and we rack up 4 INTs, does that mean our pass defense is fixed? No it means we got great pressure and forced mistakes.

I don't care if Drew Brees throws for 400, 500, of 1000 yards, yardage stats mean nothing. We got a stop when we needed it and we won the game. Why can't that be enough?

That is because we are perfectionists! We expect perfection! We are the Green Bay Packers

9/30/129:46 PM

FLPACKERMember

quote:
Originally posted by Grave Digger:
Did you all watch the game? Brews was getting the ball out lightning fast. We couldn't get any pressure which leads to terrible DB play. Shields looks fine when the pressure is there, but when you give a top 5 QB time to find his receivers then yes Sam Shields, Tramon Williams, etc all looks weak. If we come out and pressure Andrew Luck next week like crazy and we rack up 4 INTs, does that mean our pass defense is fixed? No it means we got great pressure and forced mistakes.

I don't care if Drew Brees throws for 400, 500, of 1000 yards, yardage stats mean nothing. We got a stop when we needed it and we won the game. Why can't that be enough?

...even more reason to slow receivers down at line of scrimmage & get them off their routes. In addition, playing zone makes responsibilities more "clouded"....Shields "thinks" he is passing his man off in zone & it ends up the easiest 80 yard TD a team can get.

10/1/125:05 AM

TschmackMember

I am not sure any team in the league has faced as much adversity to start the season than Green Bay. Perhaps New Orleans, but that was self inflicted.

I was not happy with the pass defense either, but the key thing is they made the stop at the end and the Saints are no slouch throwing the ball. Until yesterday the Packers pass D had been solid and I still think they are much improved over last year.

10/1/125:39 AM

FLPACKERMember

Something that surprised me was that Smith & hawk were on the field as much as they were. Both seem better vs. run that pass. We don't seem to have LBers on the roster that are better pass than run guys as we did in past years (Chillar comes to mind).

10/1/125:41 AM

Grave DiggerMember

Despite their record, the Saints have one of the most talented offenses in the NFL. We won't face a QB who can handle the pass rush and get the ball out that quick again this season.

10/1/126:41 AM

PakrzFREEZE!

quote:
Originally posted by FLPACKER:
Something that surprised me was that Smith & hawk were on the field as much as they were. Both seem better vs. run that pass. We don't seem to have LBers on the roster that are better pass than run guys as we did in past years (Chillar comes to mind).

Smith made one hell of a play yesterday sniffing out the screen pass. I like the fire that Hawk is playing with so far this season too.

10/1/126:48 AM

chickenboyTic Toc

quote:
Originally posted by Grave Digger:
Did you all watch the game? Brews was getting the ball out lightning fast. We couldn't get any pressure which leads to terrible DB play.

I agree with you on this but it was shocking HOW WIDE OPEN they were all day long. They give up big plays playing zone as well as m-2-m. I'd just rather see the aggressive m-2-m more often than the zone. JMO...

10/1/127:13 AM

YATittleMember

I agree chickenboy. But I do like how often I see the young players slapping the ball away, and think we'll have a superb D by the end of the year. Smith needed to play deeper on that long third down--inexperience is still an issue.

10/1/127:14 AM

Pikes PeakMember

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Grave Digger:
If we come out and pressure Andrew Luck next week like crazy and we rack up 4 INTs, does that mean our pass defense is fixed? QUOTE]

That would mean that it is fixed for a week. What would it mean if Luck gets little or no pressure and picks the D apart?

10/1/128:29 AM

Grave DiggerMember

Aaron Rodgers threw for 303 yards with a 68% completion % against San Francisco. If you were San Francisco fans would you have been this panicked about your pass defense after that game? No because it doesn't matter how many yards the opposing QB throws for, that statistic only matters for fantasy football, records, and awards.

10/1/129:40 AM

DH13Member

The pass D looked a lot like last year's version but the most important difference is that they made ENOUGH stops when they needed to to make it a win. They gave up some long third downs but they also stopped a good number of short ones. They couldn't pull that off last year.

The other noticeable difference is the run D completely shutting down the NO backs. By doing that, they made Brees' play action fakes less believeable.

When we score 28, I'll take 27 instead of 34 from the D.

10/1/129:42 AM

Koopla KrashMember

Whatever the Pack defense did on Jimmy Graham in the 2nd half was a big factor for why NO had to kick two short FGs instead of getting TDs. He is Brees' safety net and was invisible in the 2nd half.

DJ Smith has no business being on the field in obvious passing downs over Rob Francois. As previously mentioned, his shallow drop on 3rd & 17 was very poor and quite frankly, is a runt out there. At least frenchy is taller and better suited to play pass defense - get him out there MM!

10/1/129:55 AM

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