....I on the other hand think it's going to Hell because we're in the last days of the Empire and we deserve every damn bad thing that happens to us.
"We have met the enemy, and he is us."
---Pogo
CAPackFan95 posted:The Venn diagram of people that bitch about "politics" at ESPN and NFL and that's what's causing ratings to plummet, etc yet want their brand of jingoism and politics mandated into sporting events looks like the flag of Japan
Bulsai.
El-Ka-Bong posted:so, if we force people to stand (mandated patriotism is the best patriotism, look it up), then he will sell more pizza.
Makes sense.
This is little more than outrage advertising. This is simply targeting the rubes on the right that do whatever their retard messiahs tell them to do or to get outraged about.
So, now we'll have the news cycle of "DERRRRRRRRRRP PAPA JOHN LOVE FLAG" "HEEEEERRRRRRP PAPA JOHN HATE KNEELING" "HUURRRRRRRRRRRRR PAPA JOHN LOVE MURICA" and the right wing outrage machine will run with it and tell every one of the rubes how great Papa Johns is, how much they love MURICA more than anyone, and how they love the flag.
(and hate black people getting all uppity)
AND DAGNABBIT YOU SHOULD GO SUPPORT SUCH PATRIOTS OF MURICA! OTHERWISE YOU'RE A SOCIALIST LIBBY LIBTARD!
So, the rubes will go waste their limited disposable income and give it to this drunk piece of ****, thinking that they are oh so clever because somehow wasting their own money eating ****ty pizza is sticking it to the libs or "triggering the snowflakes" or whatever new moronic terms they repeat ad nauseam because their white supremacist heroes tell them to say it.
You canât anticipate all the ripple effects of divisiveness. But you can certainly start them.
CAPackFan95 posted:El-Ka-Bong posted:so, if we force people to stand (mandated patriotism is the best patriotism, look it up), then he will sell more pizza.
Makes sense.
This is little more than outrage advertising. This is simply targeting the rubes on the right that do whatever their retard messiahs tell them to do or to get outraged about.
So, now we'll have the news cycle of "DERRRRRRRRRRP PAPA JOHN LOVE FLAG" "HEEEEERRRRRRP PAPA JOHN HATE KNEELING" "HUURRRRRRRRRRRRR PAPA JOHN LOVE MURICA" and the right wing outrage machine will run with it and tell every one of the rubes how great Papa Johns is, how much they love MURICA more than anyone, and how they love the flag.
(and hate black people getting all uppity)AND DAGNABBIT YOU SHOULD GO SUPPORT SUCH PATRIOTS OF MURICA! OTHERWISE YOU'RE A SOCIALIST LIBBY LIBTARD!
So, the rubes will go waste their limited disposable income and give it to this drunk piece of ****, thinking that they are oh so clever because somehow wasting their own money eating ****ty pizza is sticking it to the libs or "triggering the snowflakes" or whatever new moronic terms they repeat ad nauseam because their white supremacist heroes tell them to say it.
Lol... you need fuc*ing help dude. You also realize that everything youâre saying here is exactly what the bat**** crazy left has been doing for decades, right?
Like itâs from a playbook or something... weird. 
Striking a chord.
How do you spell IDOT?
CAPackFan95 posted:El-Ka-Bong posted:so, if we force people to stand (mandated patriotism is the best patriotism, look it up), then he will sell more pizza.
Makes sense.
This is little more than outrage advertising. This is simply targeting the rubes on the right that do whatever their retard messiahs tell them to do or to get outraged about.
So, now we'll have the news cycle of "DERRRRRRRRRRP PAPA JOHN LOVE FLAG" "HEEEEERRRRRRP PAPA JOHN HATE KNEELING" "HUURRRRRRRRRRRRR PAPA JOHN LOVE MURICA" and the right wing outrage machine will run with it and tell every one of the rubes how great Papa Johns is, how much they love MURICA more than anyone, and how they love the flag.
(and hate black people getting all uppity)AND DAGNABBIT YOU SHOULD GO SUPPORT SUCH PATRIOTS OF MURICA! OTHERWISE YOU'RE A SOCIALIST LIBBY LIBTARD!
So, the rubes will go waste their limited disposable income and give it to this drunk piece of ****, thinking that they are oh so clever because somehow wasting their own money eating ****ty pizza is sticking it to the libs or "triggering the snowflakes" or whatever new moronic terms they repeat ad nauseam because their white supremacist heroes tell them to say it.
Oh and just because someone is patriotic and doesn't agree with the anthem protests does not mean they hate black people or does that make them a racist.
Blair Kiel posted:....I on the other hand think it's going to Hell because we're in the last days of the Empire and we deserve every damn bad thing that happens to us.
"We have met the enemy, and he is us."
---Pogo
Rome the deuce!
Putin posted:It has become increasingly clear, that both the right and the left are ****ing stupid
Hungry5 posted:I'm bored...
The Heckler posted:Oh and just because someone is patriotic and doesn't agree with the anthem protests does not mean they hate black people or does that make them a racist.
The fact that you and the outrage machine still think they are protesting the anthem or the flag or the military and not systemic oppression and violence pretty much says it for you.
The best part about this entire discussion is that Papa John's and their owner want to blame the NFL when it was Drumpf that started this whole mess in the first place! Had DT just stuck to doing his job (whatever that is) it would have gone away on its own.
Make better pizza and back better candidates- that might help your business model. By the way, you hitched your wagon to the NFL dude. No one held a gun to your head.
Yet another reason to despise Papa Johns and their Chief Operating Whiner that runs it.
Americaâs pizza. #ThankYouPapaJohns https://t.co/483z4ny1gB
â Mike Cernovich ðšðļ (@Cernovich) November 1, 2017
The Heckler posted:
Oh and just because someone is patriotic and doesn't agree with the anthem protests does not mean they hate black people or does that make them a racist.
Nope, it sure doesn't. You've stated you've served and I don't fault anyone for not agreeing with the protests but it's the manner in which patriotism has devolved. This type of "patriotism" means "shut up and fall in".
I say this with respect for you but every time I hear a vet say, "I served so you can blah blah blah". Really? Because the person that utters this bull**** phrase is usually defending the most undemocratic idea and to their detriment no less. Again, this isn't directed specifically at you Heckler but I'd like those yammering fools to tell me exactly what their brand of patriotism has to do with the ideas of the Enlightenment, which is the cornerstone of our nation.
Example. Freedom of Religion. "We Christians are being oppressed from oppressing people who have been oppressed". Does any fool who shouts that blather know what the concept behind freedom of religion is? It could have something to do with 150 years of slaughter, which carried over to oppression and derision throughout Europe for centuries. So what did the Founding Fathers do? They said you can practice any religion you want but it doesn't come into governance or accepted in open commerce of the country so no one religious sect comes to power to oppress others and slaughter the **** out of each other for another 150 years. And what do you see from these idiots bastardizing the idea of freedom of religion? Straight to the point. How is this any different than Jim Crow?
Is this what you served for?
The U.S. military pays for phony displays of patriotism and the NFL gladly takes the money and runs. Does this seem like patriotism or propaganda?
As recently as 2015, the Department of Defense was doling out millions to the NFL for such things as military flyovers, flag unfurlings, emotional color guard ceremonies, enlistment campaigns, and â interestingly enough â national anthem performances. Additionally, according to Vice, the NFLâs policy on players standing for the national anthem also changed in 2009, with athletes âencouragedâthereafter to participate. Prior to that, teams were not given any specific instructions on the matter; some chose to remain in the locker room until after opening ceremonies were completed. (Itâs unclear whether the policy change was implemented as a direct result of any Defense Department contracts.)
In 2015, Arizona Sens. Jeff Flake (R) and John McCain (R) revealed in a joint oversight report that nearly $5.4 million in taxpayer dollars had been paid out to 14 NFL teams between 2011 and 2014 to honor service members and put on elaborate, âpatriotic salutesâ to the military. Overall, they reported, âthese displays of paid patriotism [were] included within the $6.8 million that the Department of Defense (DOD) [had] spent on sports marketing contracts since fiscal year 2012.â
Among the more wasteful expenditures were a payment to the Atlanta Falcons to have a National Guard member sing the national anthem and a payment to the Minnesota Vikings for the ââopportunityâ to sponsor its military appreciation night.â
Is this what you served for?
So forget pig socks or morons that need to be strung up like Mussolini. Forget the individual actors and tell me if any of this gibes with the founding ideas of our country and the reason why citizen soldiers died founding this country and later truly defending it from outside invasion.
Our nation certainly has its blemishes, I really think people on both sides should acknowledge the natural progression of healing from those blemishes. It's ugly because the original sin was ugly. The fact it's happening means there is still a pulse in this Republic.
If I had to guess, this is what you served for. A living, breathing republic.
I've come to discover through the myriad of my mistakes that the only thing to you can focus on is the idea. Because the people squatting and bastardizing the idea for whatever purpose will be replaced by the next generation of opportunistic dicks, right and left.
I think the biggest thing we overlook about our Republic is the very fact it's based on compromise so all can practice and live the way they wish but within the framework of common law. We aren't supposed to like each other, just respect the idea of other.
That's a pretty excellent reason to serve.
Music City posted:Lol... you need fuc*ing help dude. You also realize that everything youâre saying here is exactly what the bat**** crazy left has been doing for decades, right?
Like itâs from a playbook or something... weird.
You really need to come up with your own material.
CAPackFan95 posted:The Venn diagram of people that bitch about "politics" at ESPN and NFL and that's what's causing ratings to plummet, etc yet want their brand of jingoism and politics mandated into sporting events looks like the flag of Japan
Racist.
Kiel, you're slipping. Kiel got his 23 and Me back and found he's 1/16 Japanese yeti or Hibagon.
All politics aside, I never understood the allure of Papa John's and their sugar sauce. It's ****ing gross. I still like to taste what tomato there is in sauce.
Don't get the Papa Johns attraction at all - Papa Johns & Dominoes death discs.
CAPackFan95 posted:
Americaâs pizza. #ThankYouPapaJohns https://t.co/483z4ny1gB
â Mike Cernovich ðšðļ (@Cernovich) November 1, 2017
Because it's the type of pizza that knows when you stick your dick in it deserves it.
Henry posted:The Heckler posted:
Oh and just because someone is patriotic and doesn't agree with the anthem protests does not mean they hate black people or does that make them a racist.
Nope, it sure doesn't. You've stated you've served and I don't fault anyone for not agreeing with the protests but it's the manner in which patriotism has devolved. This type of "patriotism" means "shut up and fall in".
Is this what you served for?
So forget pig socks or morons that need to be strung up like Mussolini. Forget the individual actors and tell me if any of this gibes with the founding ideas of our country and the reason why citizen soldiers died founding this country and later truly defending it from outside invasion.
Our nation certainly has its blemishes, I really think people on both sides should acknowledge the natural progression of healing from those blemishes. It's ugly because the original sin was ugly. The fact it's happening means there is still a pulse in this Republic.
If I had to guess, this is what you served for. A living, breathing republic.
I've come to discover through the myriad of my mistakes that the only thing to you can focus on is the idea. Because the people squatting and bastardizing the idea for whatever purpose will be replaced by the next generation of opportunistic dicks, right and left.
I think the biggest thing we overlook about our Republic is the very fact it's based on compromise so all can practice and live the way they wish but within the framework of common law. We aren't supposed to like each other, just respect the idea of other.
That's a pretty excellent reason to serve.
Lol... someone hack your account you condescending piece of garbage?
It isnât patriotism that makes the âmovementâ offensive. Itâs the complete disregard for what that flag represents to a LOT of people (and isnât that drmonstrated with the topic?), especially to many who served, that is at the heart of the debate.
And while all have the right to behave how they wish within the law, I am (and others are) nonetheless offended with that disrespect. We have common ground that you can act this way- but you do so at your own peril.
So now the same folks who want to dictate whatâs offensive, whatâs not, etc. are going to tell me what the flag and the anthem are supposed to mean to me? That would have me tapdance on eggshells recognizing 31 gender identities (or any other nonesense) but I canât be offended when you take that one moment when we all should stand and honor the American blood that flag and song represent and jam your cause in my face? Pardon me, but f**k you. We can have the discussion you so desperately want outside of that one place and Iâll listen. Weâll even agree. But if youâre allowed to trample my beliefs at your leisure and I cannot draw a line, we have nothing to talk about because youâre a hypocritical asshole.
Kumbaya
Jam my cause in your face. Hey frothy, is the very cornerstone of America ideology irritating for you? That's a rhetorical question.
You're a ****ing zealot piece of ****. Always have been, always will be. I was talking to Heckler. You're a brain dead bot who pulled **** out of his ass to rant about my post. Go ahead and go through it again and find anything about your 31 genders and telling you to like it.
You aren't deserving of respect.
BTW, **** your piece of fabric. If people don't want to "honor" a staged propaganda event are you going to jam it in my face? Think before you open your worthless suck.
Maybe I'm missing something but since when did the anthem and flag become tied together? And why is it automatically tied to respecting the military?
I always thought we fought to preserve liberty and freedom. The very thing that allows us to openly disagree or protest what we find offensive or unjust.
The head cheese is the one that buggered this up amarite?
Exactly. Veterans Day and Memorial Day are for honoring military service and those who died in service. The co-opting of American principles to mean militaristic worship is all this dog and pony show is about.
Jefferson, Madison, Franklin, Adams, all fierce warriors. God damn pussy egghead intellectuals always going the diplomatic route first. They're a stain on this great nation!
Help me understand which is more disrespectful to the flag
The answer is, of course, A and C. Tomi has boobs, which is really what we all fight for.
I prefer B. A handfull but not too much to really get a hold of. Also head south later.
Take that flag off that woman!
I see what you did there.
Who kneels?
WTF happened here? I posted about Peyton maybe becoming a GM / owner and we end up with sh!tty pizza and politics?
Nice form.
Thems the breaks H5.
x4 was a better place when the rule was no politics and anything that pushed it got admin edited and/or deleted.
I really didn't care or want to know.
Agree.
I can talk politics one on one with anybody (and have with Hank on a number of occasions) and while not agreeing, the conversation is civil and lends itself to mutual respect.
On the innerwebs....not so much.
...and Jesus, Nancy Pelosi is a whack job. 
Henry posted:
Jam my cause in your face. Hey frothy, is the very cornerstone of America ideology irritating for you? That's a rhetorical question.
You're a ****ing zealot piece of ****. Always have been, always will be. I was talking to Heckler. You're a brain dead bot who pulled **** out of his ass to rant about my post. Go ahead and go through it again and find anything about your 31 genders and telling you to like it.
You aren't deserving of respect.
BTW, **** your piece of fabric. If people don't want to "honor" a staged propaganda event are you going to jam it in my face? Think before you open your worthless suck.
And Iâm the angry one... lol!!!