Positives/Negatives Packers Vikings

Positives

- Crosby making his FG's. Hope the yips are behind him for good
- DuJuan Harris. Stop using him on DELAYED RUNS. Let him get a head of steam and let him use his burst
- Jeremy Ross. Makes you wonder how this guy wasn't returning kicks all year. Cobb is a good returner, but Ross is bigger and tougher to bring down and the guy has had back to back weeks with some really big returns. Looks like he's about to bust one every time. Loved what he has been doing.
- Jennings. If it is his last year, it will suck. Dude showed off his YAC skills today
- Offense in the 2nd half. They started really slow but that 2nd half they were unstoppable


negatives

- Entire D in general and the reason they couldn't pull it out. Hard to win giving up 37 points. Stupid penalties by them, piss poor tackling and for the first time in weeks we saw some incredibly soft coverage. Very disappointing to see this sort of performance right as the playoffs are around the corner. They couldn't stop anythin the Vikes were doing
- Tramon ducking out from tackling AP was embarrassing. Get that sh*t out of here
- Losing to a divisional rival when they had a shot to eliminate their postseason hopes.


It's over and done and I hope the D got that crap out of their system. Do or die time from here on out. Don't bring that soft sh*t to the field again the rest of the year, D.

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Originally posted by GBP1:

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Originally posted by Pakrz:
We playing Saturday or Sunday??

I may have heard Sunday???

Ugh...I need to know for sure soon. Have to see about getting a day off from work. Wasn't planning on football next weekend God damn it.

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The Bears Still Suck!

How bad can it be?

I'm still wondering why we didn't attempt to save time with the 2 timeouts we had

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Originally posted by Blair Kiel:
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The Bears Still Suck!

How bad can it be?

Oh yea, that's the other positive. At least in their loss, they eliminated the Bears, so there's that

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Originally posted by GBP1:

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Originally posted by Pakrz:
We playing Saturday or Sunday??

I may have heard Sunday???

Or was it Saturday??

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Originally posted by GBP1:

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Originally posted by Pakrz:
We playing Saturday or Sunday??

I may have heard Sunday???


Or was it Saturday??

Saturday's benched.

+ Happy to see the Giants not make the playoffs. I'd have rather had the Bears make it than the Giants, but both are done.

+ After a rough start, the offense should be proud of how they played.

+ Crosby and Ross on special teams

- everyone in the back 7 of the defense except Matthews. Pathetic beyond belief. At least there's hope for better at LB next year if Bishop and Perry can come back strong. At Safety though, there may not be an answer without a high draft pick spent. Burnett, Jennings, and McMillan all look like they are in over their heads vs. smashmouth teams like the Vikes, 49ers, and Giants. Maybe Woodson can help, but with a weak collarbone, I'm not convinced he can play the run any better than those 3.

Positives:

Ross
Greg Jennings
Crosby hitting a +50 yard FG

Negatives

Constantly giving up passing 1st downs on 3d and long to Christian Ponder
Giving up a 28-yard run to AP on 2d and 27
People who use apostrophes for plurals

Packers play Saturday night.

I think we need to go easier on Barclay. Tauscher talks endlessly about how hard it is for OTs to play road dome games, and the Humpty-Dumpty dome is the worst because of their piped in fake noise.

Packers' back 7 on D is simply fundamentally poor. Where the hell were the LBs today? I wish the coaches would lock these guys in a room and have them watch 18 hrs of the 49er defense play tackle football.

So they haven't wanted to tackle AP 2x this season. Who's to think they will want to tackle him Saturday?

To me, Ponder was the x-factor today. He didn't turn it over and made some big 3rd down conversions.

Play of the game: Tramon's boneheaded head check which resulted in a TD instead of FG.

Defense poor play overshadowed Crosby's solid return to normalcy.

Defense was bad-hopefully it was just one of those days! Offense played well. Too bad it took the entire team about 20 minutes to wake up. Worst game I've ever seen Tramon Williams play.

We get redemption in 6 days.

win next week and all the Vikings get out of it is a later draft pick

With a very short week, it's going to be very interesting to see what the Queens secondary looks like in 6 days.

Initial reports/blog chatter is that Winfield will not be able to play and AJ Jefferson and Scherels got LIT up by . IIRC they also lost another starter in the DB field who didn't return either.

With Cobb back, Rodgers should be salivating.

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Originally posted by Ryan Grant:
Worst game I've ever seen Tramon Williams play.

That's really saying something when you consider how terrible he was for most of last season playing with one arm. What's his excuse for today?

After the slow offensive start, the Pack was just about unstoppable through the air. With Cobb back Rodgers will shred their secondary even more. The Queens will not be able to cover everyone.

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If the Packers loss next week they get a whole lot better draft choice.
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I think Barclay may of lost the game for the Packers hust as much as Williams did. The Queens took advantage of him. But What the Heck he is a undrafted Rookie Right Tackle, he did a whole better then I would expect. In the long run Barclay is a plus.

I'm not the least bit worried about next week. Peterson will have less than 100 yards on the ground, and the Vikings offense will turn it over at least four times. What I'm worried about is how they can beat anyone else in the NFC playoff field (or for that matter, the Broncos, should they get that far).

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Originally posted by Fedya:

Negatives


People who use apostrophes for plurals

Superior acting a-holes?

A-hole's?

A-holes'?

GB v. DEN in the SB?

Not worried about AP. He will get his big game. 200 yards or so.Its Ponder thats the factor. I just don't see Ponder having the game he had today again at Lambeau. We are going to get to him and the turnovers will happen that didn't today.

Why is GB in the SB a ?

Extended forecast for Green Bay shows snow on Thursday and a low of 14 on Friday night.

Hmmm... remember when that was a GREAT forecast for a game at Lambeau? It's time to bring that tradition back!

Need to fix the OL and the front seven before that happens.

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Originally posted by San Doggy:
Not worried about AP. He will get his big game. 200 yards or so.Its Ponder thats the factor. I just don't see Ponder having the game he had today again at Lambeau. We are going to get to him and the turnovers will happen that didn't today.

You're out of your mind if you think Peterson is going to get near 200 again. Ponder passing for 500 yards is more likely (which is to say, it's extremely unlikely).

Can we agree on 150 yards ?

He'll be lucky to crack 100. They're going to fall behind early, and stay there.

I sure hope so. AP has ran 409 yards on us in two games this year it would be great to actually contain him and make Ponder try to keep them in it.

It's going to be a bloodbath next Saturday. Mind you, I still think the Packers have an awful defense and that they have virtually no shot at the Super Bowl, but they'll destroy Minnesota next week.

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* The DBs and LBs cannot let AP get to the edge. When he bounces it outside, our guys cannot tackle him for crap. Keep him inside and let the big guys up front jam it up until help arrives. Pickett and Raji did a good job today standing their guys up; it was the edge guys that let him get outside and then AP is a beast to bring down.
* Matthews also shouldn't let himself get screened that badly.
* Tramon has to play like that fullback is actually a receiver and not ignore him like that for a big gain.
* Geez, we sucked on D.

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* Our O put up 34 and that should win most games.

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Originally posted by Pack-Man:
What I'm worried about is how they can beat anyone else in the NFC playoff field (or for that matter, the Broncos, should they get that far).

Are you watching Dal/Wash tonight? Or, have you watched Atl recently? The Falcons played their starters today and lost to TB at home.

After they beat MIN next week (or as Pack-Man said) destroy them, they will have better than virtually no shot at the Super Bowl considering they will be 1 of the final 8 still with a shot.

Green Bay has lost 4 out of their last 5 playoff games at Lambeau. That's pretty sad. It is time to bring the HFA back to Lambeau, starting Saturday. Then maybe the chips will fall and they will play the Seahags again in the NFCC game.

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Originally posted by Illini Kev:

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Originally posted by Pack-Man:
What I'm worried about is how they can beat anyone else in the NFC playoff field (or for that matter, the Broncos, should they get that far).

Are you watching Dal/Wash tonight? Or, have you watched Atl recently? The Falcons played their starters today and lost to TB at home.

Do you get a good mental picture when you imagine RGIII at Lambeau? I don't. Sure, the Cowboys and Falcons are also teams the Packers would probably beat. But San Francisco, Seattle or the Redskins? The Packers are underdogs.

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Originally posted by The GBP Rules:
Green Bay has lost 4 out of their last 5 playoff games at Lambeau. That's pretty sad. It is time to bring the HFA back to Lambeau, starting Saturday. Then maybe the chips will fall and they will play the Seahags again in the NFCC game.

Everybody but the Green Bay Packers gets amped up over the idea of playing at Lambeau Field. It's been that way for a very long time.

PS: They've actually won 2 of their last 5 (wins over Seattle both times). Starting with the loss to Atlanta, they're 2-4 at Lambeau in the playoffs.

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Originally posted by Pack-Man:
Do you get a good mental picture when you imagine RGIII at Lambeau? I don't. Sure, the Cowboys and Falcons are also teams the Packers would probably beat. But San Francisco, Seattle or the Redskins? The Packers are underdogs.

You may write off these potential match-ups as losses...bring it on. I'm sure they're all anxious to face Rodgers, Jennings, Jones, Cobb, Finley, Nelson, Matthews, Raji, etc, etc.

Another note of your three teams...QBs with ZERO playoff wins or experience. We shall see. i'll take my chances with a Super Bowl and league MVP running the show.

Seemed like the Vikes put everything into the game today. Wonder if they can do that again next week, on the road?

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Originally posted by Pack-Man:

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Originally posted by Illini Kev:

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Originally posted by Pack-Man:
What I'm worried about is how they can beat anyone else in the NFC playoff field (or for that matter, the Broncos, should they get that far).

Are you watching Dal/Wash tonight? Or, have you watched Atl recently? The Falcons played their starters today and lost to TB at home.

Do you get a good mental picture when you imagine RGIII at Lambeau? I don't. Sure, the Cowboys and Falcons are also teams the Packers would probably beat. But San Francisco, Seattle or the Redskins? The Packers are underdogs.

The RGIII before the knee injury isn't playing right now. Barely beating a mediocre Cowboys team at home tonight. And would welcome the chance to take apart the Seahawks in an NFC championship game.

In nobody's betting book are the Packers underdogs to either team at Lambeau.

Yeah, the Packers would probably be 2.5 point favorites in either matchup. Not much like the old days, is it?

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But San Francisco, Seattle or the Redskins?

Well, GB already beat Seattle this season.

Yeah yeah, I know. But they've grown a great deal since then. Russell Wilson is a different player now, the Packers offensive line is without Bulaga and they're forced into playing low-grade backups opposite of Matthews.