Pound the Padres Thread

Black is back, playing 1st base.  I wonder why?   His batting average has to be better than Bauers.   Also called up RHP Bradley Blalock.  Dunn sent back down and Elieser Hernández  was DFA after his poor performance Wed night.  Glad to see the front office holding guys accountable.

Gasser having Tommy John surgery. Out for at least 12 months.

Wilson just did not have it tonight. Has given up 3 HRs in 5 innings and the Brewers are down 5-3.

Tied 6-6 going to the bottom of the 9th.

Well that game sucked. Way to go Payamps

@MichiganPacker2 posted:

Gasser having Tommy John surgery. Out for at least 12 months.

The Brewers have a list of injured pitchers that would make a respectable major league pitching staff.

Devin Williams

Brandon Woodruff (although they knew he was going to be out when he signed)

Wade Miley

Robert Gasser

DL Hall

Joe Ross

Abner Uribe

JB Bukauskas

Jakob Junis

Clearly the Crew have a strong pitching lab, but it does make you wonder

The more they baby these guys the more they get injured.  Remember the days of Palmer, Cuellar, Dobson and McNally staff.  Also guys like Kaat, the Perry brothers, Spahn, and many others. Give them the ball every 4 or 5 days and let them pitch complete games all season long.

@ammo posted:

The more they baby these guys the more they get injured.  Remember the days of Palmer, Cuellar, Dobson and McNally staff.  Also guys like Kaat, the Perry brothers, Spahn, and many others. Give them the ball every 4 or 5 days and let them pitch complete games all season long.

It's not just the Brewers, it's everybody.

There are a lot of articles written about this, but the consensus is that the availability of radar guns everywhere and the focus on velocity from the time kids start throwing as pre-teens is what's setting this up. Instead of just spending time throwing, every workout and pitch is put under a radar gun and it creates incentives to overthrow since that's what teams are looking for.

I wonder if a guy like Greg Maddux would even be a prospect that major league teams would invest in developing nowadays.

Jamie Moyer won 269 games and his fastball never got above the mid-80s.

Maddux was in the mid-80s for mph on the fastball as he aged and still effective well into his late 30s. 

Mike Caldwell started 217 games for the Brewers and had 81 complete games. He maybe hit 85 on the radar gun at his peak.

The name of the game is to now use 4-5 different pitchers every game and have as many of them throw as close to 95-100 mph as possible.

In the meantime the Cubs are getting their asses handed to them today. Mets lead 11-1 going into the 9th. Edit: And that's how it ends.

@ammo posted:

The more they baby these guys the more they get injured.  Remember the days of Palmer, Cuellar, Dobson and McNally staff.  Also guys like Kaat, the Perry brothers, Spahn, and many others. Give them the ball every 4 or 5 days and let them pitch complete games all season long.

Tom Seaver talked about that a few decades ago.

But with some new pitching ideas since then, Driveline for instance, that makes injuries even more likely.

Tonight's line up, Colin Rea pitching:

• Brewers put an inning together in the 5th.  Read from the bottom up. 3 -1 Crew still batting in the 5th. 

  Yelich singled to center, Turang scored, Yelich to second, Contreras to third.
• Contreras singled to right, Chourio scored, Turang to third.
• Turang grounded into fielder's choice to third, Black scored, Chourio to second.
• Chourio reached on infield single to shortstop, Black safe at third on throwing error by shortstop Kim.
• Ortiz struck out swinging.
• Black stole second.

  Black walked

Hoskins drives in Contreras with an infield single.  Brewers send 10 to the plate, leave the bases loaded but score 4 runs!!!!      Now 4 - 1, Padres batting in the 5th.

Padres come back to tie it.

I think the Brewers losing an entire pitching staff worth of arms is starting to show itself. The staff is being held together by bailer twine and some duct tape and that's just not sustainable. Murphy has done an exceptional job holding things together, but there's just not enough talent there.

Is this going to be another one of those pre-All Star break skids?

@MichiganPacker2 posted:

focus on velocity

and spin rate. 

I think when you throw 15 mph faster than 20 years ago, recovery time is even more important (I'm also just a moron fan, you have to assume teams know how to protect investments). 

TV. Fox Saturday game to the week.

6:00 pm

As Skully said the game is on FOX.  About time the Brewers get some national recognition. I'm so tired of Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers and Mets getting so many national games.  Sure wish we had a better pitcher going tho.

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@"We"-Ka-Bong posted:

and spin rate.

I think when you throw 15 mph faster than 20 years ago, recovery time is even more important (I'm also just a moron fan, you have to assume teams know how to protect investments).

No one is throwing anything close to 15 MPH faster. Driveline and others are about gaining 2-4 MPH, and that arm angle they encourage to gain that extra bit is causing huge problems.  @ThePainGuy on Twitter has been talking about that for years.

As great as William Contreras was in May, he’s been equally awful in June. And Murphy refuses to give him a couple of days off though he is clearly gassed. He’s batting .211 in 76 at bats this month, and his power has disappeared. 2 doubles and 1 home run.

@D J posted:

No one is throwing anything close to 15 MPH faster. Driveline and others are about gaining 2-4 MPH, and that arm angle they encourage to gain that extra bit is causing huge problems.  @ThePainGuy on Twitter has been talking about that for years.

The amount of injuries across baseball would seemingly cause teams to maybe adjust their priorities, no? That extra couple of mph isn’t worth it if half the pitchers on your staff are going down for the year.

Brewers have had base runners in all 6 innings so far and are still scoreless.  Turang caught stealing twice.  Ortiz hit into a double play in the 2nd.  2 walks in the 1st but no runs.        

So far the Padres are doing the pounding in this series. Not looking good for the crew as San Diego pounds them again, 3 straight games. Game aint over yet, but does not look good.

Turang with a Grand Slam.  6 - 4 Padres.

Turang with a 345 foot grand slam. Basically an opposite field lazy fly ball to the short porch.

It will look good for his stats, but the Brewers never even brought the tying run to the plate in this game.

To little too late. Where we stand:

Milwaukee can't get out of SD soon enough. Hope this isn't the series that turns their season downwards. Hope they can salvage 1 game today out of this series.

Contreras with a day off just to please lambeausouth.   

offensive batting eruption for the Brewer bats in the bottom 2nd.

5-0 Crew !!!!!

Brewers doing what they do best in the 2nd.   

Adames single. After a Baures K (naturally)  Otiz singles.  Then Frelick singles, Adames scores.  Sanchez K (what's new). Perkins singles driving in Ortiz and Frelick.  Turang triples driving in Frelick.  Black singles driving in Turang.  Yelich Ks.   5 -0 Crew, Padres batting in the 2nd.

Padres pitcher gets 6 strike outs in the 1st 2 innings but also gives up 5 runs. 

Crew strands 2 in 6th, lead 5-1. Had runners on 2nd and 3rd with 1 out, but could not get them home.

Myers out after a strong 5 innings. Hudson in.

My golf swing is a l m o s t  as smooth as Yelich's baseball stroke.   

Brewers get another in the 7th.  Bauers single (YEAH) drives in Chourio but Yelich thrown out at 3rd.  6 - 1 crew.

Hudson pitching good. To the 8th we go.

Pirates and Reds  lost today. Cubs play red hot Mets tonight.  Cards did win today.