Obviously, I'm a half full guy, but your right, the Packers D is bad right now, hopefully it will get better. If you go by the yds/gm stat, the Packers are one of the worst in the league #26, BUT if you go by pts/gm (which is really all that matters, imo) we are 17th in the league. But the real stat that matters is we are an average team, right now at 2-2.
Then why was AR locked in on Jordy against Detroit? And why wouldn't AR complete the easy passes against Richard Sherman?quote:"He doesn't get bored completing the easy pass." - MM
Once again, this is an opponent we should steamroll.
They are suspect on defense, may have a decent running game, but no QB to speak of; certainly no passing QB.
It's likely to be a typical division game; too close for comfort, hard-fought, frustrating. If they can rush the ball effectively, it will keep our offense off the field, obviously, but also relieves pressure on Ponder/T Water, and eat up TOP. Everything we need to not happen.
I also don't know if the SpermHeads would be the team to go up-tempo/no-huddle on; I don't know there would be an advantage to doing that. It would make just as much sense for us to have double-digit, time-consuming drives, and keep their RBs on the sidelines.
GBFFL commented it's supposed to be raining Thursday night. That's a good point, and if it gives either team an advantage, I'd say it favors the Pack. The better passer should prevail. Let's hope our guys aren't slipping/sliding instead of tackling.
Originally Posted by Hungry5:
Originally Posted by GBFanForLife:
If that was toss it up and hope, he should do it more often. It was directly to Adams.
Watch it again. Adams ran under it. Rodgers threw it to a spot, Adams happened to get to that spot. And no, he should not do it more often and he admitted as much. He called it "one of the poorer decisions of my career". Late, deep, down the middle while under pressure is a cardinal sin.
I still like it. Better than sitting in the pocket and taking a sack.
http://www.packersnews.com/sto...its-stupid/16493689/
"It sucks, man. I hate it," Sitton said. "Felt like crap today. Probably feel like crap on Thursday. I think it's stupid. I think it's all about money for the NFL, obviously. That's what this league is about, is about making money. Which is fine. I like to make money as well. But, yeah, it's tough on your body, tough on your head."
Originally Posted by GBFanForLife:
Barrington, Boyd & Boykin Atterny's at law.
One Missed Defensive Call, That's All!
Sitton is saying what every other player in the NFL is thinking.
Thursday football has sucked ass for 3 years+ now. Every game is terrible. It's too difficult to play a game on 3 days rest. It's bull$hit.
Originally Posted by GBFanForLife:
I still like it. Better than sitting in the pocket and taking a sack.
Only because it wasn't picked.
Originally Posted by PackerRuss:
I guess what I am trying to say is that this past game has skewed those stats.
I'm not buying it. Not for a second. Atlanta and Green Bay both have BAD defenses.
GB and ATL were 25th and 27th in total defense last year. That's 16 games, big enough sample size for you? 24th and 27th in points allowed.
This year 26th and 31st in total defense and 17th(GB) and 29th in points allowed.
These are not statistical anomalies here. These are TWO BAD DEFENSES.
If there is a skewed stat it would probably be points allowed by Green Bay. They let Chicago gain almost 500 yards but thanks to piss poor clock management at the end of the half and Cutler remembering he was Cutler in the 2nd half they only managed 17 points. Marty Mohrningwig also took 7 points off the board for the Jets. Need more games like the Lions before we can even begin to call this defense average.
As for Atlanta, maybe their defense could look OK if they got to play Tampa Bay 16 games every year. Until that happens, they have a crappy defense.
Well...the Queens defense is going to look bad come this Thursday night.
Resistance is futile.
Originally Posted by PackerHawk:
I'm not buying it. Not for a second. Atlanta and Green Bay both have BAD defenses.
GB and ATL were 25th and 27th in total defense last year. That's 16 games, big enough sample size for you? 24th and 27th in points allowed.
This year 26th and 31st in total defense and 17th(GB) and 29th in points allowed.
These are not statistical anomalies here. These are TWO BAD DEFENSES.
These are two defenses playing poorly- whether they are CAPITAL letters bad is yet to be determined.
17th in points is certainly a decent starting point
There's lots of ways to look at it, the only thing we can do is watch and see if they get better
Couple of comments though
1) Last year doesn't matter, but if it did- it would be fair to point out that the Packers defense was playing some very good ball before Rodgers, Matthews and others got hurt
2) This year, the Packers are using 3 new DL, a new OLB, new safeties, a change at ILB with Lattimore. That's a lot of personnel changes that need to be assimilated
3) There are changes in scheme as well and those too take some time to be assimilated
IF any other team made a similar number of changes on their defense, we'd all assume it would take a half a season to gel. The 2014 Packers deserve the same patience from the fans imo. The fans who clamored, screamed and hollered for change are often the ones griping about the fact that they didn't come out of the gate on fire after those changes were made
The Packers defense has played poorly too often in September of 2014, that much is clear
But saddling them with both the yoke of previous shortcomings AND the inevitability of future suckitude just isn't a very enlightened position in my opinion
Even Leroy Butler said it will take until the bye week for them to all gel. GB plays @ New Orleans right before the bye - if the new Packers defense & personnel haven't shown improvement by then, bring out your pitchforks and skewer them to your hearts delight
I'm sure its a surprise for most fans, but here's the sequence of points given up in 2014
36, 24, 19, 17 including a shut out of the Bears in the 2nd half and holding the Jets to 3 points in the 2nd half of that game
Perhaps that's a positive trend ?
Also note: The vaunted 49ers defense gave up 28 at home to the Bears and the Jets gave up 27.
The Packers defense allowed.... 17
We'll see soon enough if they rise to the occasion
Originally Posted by Satori:
Originally Posted by PackerHawk:
I'm not buying it. Not for a second. Atlanta and Green Bay both have BAD defenses.
No they are CAPITAL LETTERS bad.
Oh my what BIG LETTERS you have...you aren't trying to compensate are you ? 
He's black, no compensation required I'm guessin'. 
The packers pass defense is fairly good, especially with the rules skewed towards offense. It's their run defense that has me concerned. You can't allow 235 yards rushing every game & expect to win consistently in this league. You will lose in the playoffs.
You are absolutely correct Boris, history has proven that you don't win championships if you can't run the ball and also stop the run, I sure hope Capers gets it figured out soon because our window of opportunity with Rodgers at the helm is slowly closing
Packers coach Mike McCarthy spoke to the media following Wednesday's closed practice.
Here are some highlights:
Injury report: Out â WR Jarrett Boykin (DNP, groin). Doubtful â DL Josh Boyd (DNP, knee), ILB Sam Barrington (DNP, hamstring). Probable â ILB Brad Jones (limited, quad), OLB Clay Matthews (full, groin), OL T.J. Lang (personal) OLB/DE Mike Neal (DNP, hip).
On Mike Neal:
He couldn't practice today. I'm hopeful he'll be ready for the game.
On impact of new schedule:
Our injury situation to date, we definitely have been healthier from a numbers standpoint. Our biggest injuries, we've had four ACLs and the league average is probably two a year.
On Jarrett Boykin:
I don't have a timeline. Jarrett won't be ready for Thursday. I don't know if he'll be ready for Miami. That's a long time away. It's a little worse than they thought he was.
On QBs being more ready to play:
I think so. I think you have to give credit to high school programs and these college games, they're throwing the ball all over the yard. It used to be if you put a quarterback in shotgun, you had to teach him a whole new thing. Third-down is the toughest down in football, so I think these QBs have a lot more experience because what they do in high school and college before they get here. Everyone used to play in I-form. They had to be ready for third down and subpackages. Madden football. Let's be honest. What they're exposed to.
On Jeff Janis and Davante Adams:
I think Adams is taking advantage of his opportunities. I think they'll tilt coverage toward Jordy. Jeff has been doing a good job. We'll see how it works out.
On Mason Crosby's kickoff:
He can kick it up in the stands as far as I'm concerned. He's kicking the ball very well. That's something this time of year you have to take advantage of.
On tilting coverage to Jordy:
If you look at history of defense that has a quarters concept, they can match. Their ability to leverage Jordy in their base stuff is something they do all the time. I think it's part of the way they play.
On running out of shotgun:
Analogy for quarterback is similar to running back. If you look at Eddie and James, they rip down field and you put them in shotgun, there's an adjustment. It's a whole different look. If you see runners not being patient, they're not trusting the footwork.