Rick Kranitz has got to go!

lynndickey83Member

I am the last guy to jump to conclusions and cry out, "FIRE this guy!" But the Brewer pitching has held them back for two years+ now under Kranitz. He was hired in November of 2010 after failing in Baltimore and Florida.

We are LAST in pitching in the NL, based on team ERA. Ron R. and Kranitz are VERY close, so it is unlikely to happen, unless Melvin steps in. Our bullpen is a mess, as it was last year. ALL of our starting pitchers are underachieving and the buck stops at Rick Kranitz.

This reminds me of Dom Capers, who doesn't really deserve to have a job either after our HUGE playoff disasters. No one has the balls to make the move in GB and I see the same situation in Milwaukee.

Teams with collective ERAs near 5.00 don't make the post season. Something has to be done. When Hart comes back we will be one of the top three hitting teams in all of baseball, even AVERAGE pitching could get us to the post season.

MAKE THE MOVE NOW!

5/10/135:04 PM

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"We"-Ka-BongYou ungrateful biscuit eating son of a bitch

I thought hitting was the problem?

5/10/135:19 PM

trumpMember

who said that?

5/10/138:26 PM

lynndickey83Member

NINE walks by the staff tonight....

5/10/139:58 PM

Diggr14Member

The staff isnt exactly brimming with talant.

OWIallardo - probably dealing with a bit of alcoholism probs / terrible for a #1
Peralta - pretty ugly so far
Lohse - has been fine
Estrada - needs to be replaced

Is it time to bring up Jed Bradley? I think you almost have to soon.

5/11/136:15 AM

TschmackMember

That's the thing. I personally don't believe that Milwaukee has a lot of talent to work with either.

Still, outside of Kyle Lohse the rest of the starters have not played up to or exceeded expectations.

5/11/137:45 AM

CheezersMember

Gallardo has had plenty of chances to prove that he's the staff ace, but he has failed miserably. Guy just throws way too many pitches and walks too many batters.

Getting Lohse got us our ace I guess, but it's looking like it won't keep the Brewers from losing 85 games or more.

5/11/138:22 AM

"We"-Ka-BongYou ungrateful biscuit eating son of a bitch

Jed Bradley?

Every year a bunch of Brewer fans say this will be the year they are horrible (typically before June), I guess they are bound to be right sometime.

5/11/138:27 AM

TimpranilloMember

quote:
Originally posted by Diggr14:
OWIallardo - probably dealing with a bit of alcoholism probs / terrible for a #1

This broke my brain so hard I can't decide which DERP picture to use.

Can someone help a brother out?

5/11/1312:15 PM

TschmackMember

It's hard to get too down on a guy like Estrada because he's a marginal player but Gallardo must pitch better. Peralta and Burgos show flashes but still need a lot more reps and we have to expect some ups and downs.

5/11/131:10 PM

"We"-Ka-BongYou ungrateful biscuit eating son of a bitch

quote:
Originally posted by Diggr14:
OWIallardo

I thought TD came back for a moment there

5/11/138:05 PM

Diggr14Member

Someone needs to keep this place fresh like a 3 day old diaper.

5/12/1312:45 AM

Orlando WolfMember

Gotta admit I was drinking the young pitching koolaid. Joke so far.

5/25/136:36 PM

TschmackMember

Pretty much every one of their younger guys they were counting on (i.e. Thornburg, Burgos, Fiers, Rogers, Peralta) have been a disappointment and at some point it can't just be all on them. Who's doing the coaching and development piece?

Outside of a few guys like Henderson the pitching on this time is flat out awful. At some point someone needs to be held accountable.

5/26/135:27 AM

trumpMember

1 item I'd look at if I was GM ... now or next spring, LuCroy working out at 2nd base.

1) IMO, Weeks is history between now and next year.

2) IMO, LuCroy is not that good of a catcher but I think his bat has some future.

3) I do not think LuCroy is a captain behind the plate.

5/26/1310:31 PM

BrainDedMember

It's more than Kranitz. It starts with scouting and development.. The only good pitcher that came up through our system in the last decade is Gallardo. That is a problem.

5/26/1310:46 PM

"We"-Ka-BongYou ungrateful biscuit eating son of a bitch

I don't think Luc is the problem behind the plate. You'd be significantly better of trading him that converting him to second, and I'd rather not trade him.

5/27/137:36 AM

trumpMember

I don't think Luc is the problem behind the pitching.

But, it'd be worth a look and seeing if he could play 2nd, I don't think he can take it physically behind the plate and still be as good as hitter as IMO he might be able to be.

do you know Luc has done nothing but catch his entire baseball career?

5/27/1312:27 PM

"We"-Ka-BongYou ungrateful biscuit eating son of a bitch

I think trying to move a sound defensive catcher who can hit to another position is crazy, unless you have something better pushing him out of the way.

5/27/131:17 PM

TschmackMember

Don't think Lucroy is the problem

Kranitz doesn't has a clue and Melvin isn't helping matters down the trough

5/27/135:49 PM

BrainDedMember

quote:
Originally posted by El-Ka-Bong:
I think trying to move a sound defensive catcher who can hit to another position is crazy, unless you have something better pushing him out of the way.

Catchers who can hit are a lot harder to find than 2nd basemen who can hit but have no range.

5/28/1312:07 AM

Rusty LarueMember

The problem with the pitching in Milwaukee is the GM. For whatever reason Doug Melvin has never been able to find and develop pitching talent whether in Milwaukee or Texas.

As was pointed out by another poster the only decent pitcher the Brewers have developed in the last decade is Yovani Gallardo and he's not exactly an ace.

The rotation right now has two guys who shouldn't be in the majors right now (Peralta and Burgos) a #5 type pitcher (Estrada) and Lohse and Gallardo. It's hard to win with that no matter who the pitching coach is.

5/28/137:34 AM

"We"-Ka-BongYou ungrateful biscuit eating son of a bitch

the pitching is all over the place, Yo is a far better pitcher than we've seen. The young guys have the pitches, but fold so damn fast. I'm shocked the pen has been so good this year (aside from Ax's blow ups).

Every team has high picks flame out, the young pitchers over the years on the farm are no different (so every team has the injury excuse). What seems to separate Milwaukee from other teams in the NL is these kids don't seem prepared when they come up. I say that because it is not for rushing them, as this organization waits longer than anyone else when it comes to calling a kid up.

5/28/138:02 AM

hoopheadMember

quote:
Originally posted by Diggr14:
Is it time to bring up Jed Bradley? I think you almost have to soon.

Jed Bradley, straight from Brevard?
Seriously.

5/28/139:07 AM

Orlando WolfMember

Jimmy Nelson in Huntsville...

5/28/139:13 AM

Orlando WolfMember

quote:
Originally posted by El-Ka-Bong:

Every team has high picks flame out, the young pitchers over the years on the farm are no different (so every team has the injury excuse). What seems to separate Milwaukee from other teams in the NL is these kids don't seem prepared when they come up. I say that because it is not for rushing them, as this organization waits longer than anyone else when it comes to calling a kid up.

Well said.

5/28/139:15 AM

BrainDedMember

Meanwhile, the Cardinals just called up another stud, Mike Wacha, to plug into their rotation.

2012 1rst rounder, been dominating in his short stint in the minors. 2.05 ERA

5/28/131:48 PM

TschmackMember

quote:
What seems to separate Milwaukee from other teams in the NL is these kids don't seem prepared when they come up

Well, they basically ****ed up Thornburg big time and he was a really good looking prospect. Same thing with Peralta. Burgos isn't too far behind.

Melvin is a trainwreck with pitching (and personally I think it's time for him to go) but this franchise absolutely sucks when it comes to drafting and developing pitching

Somebody please tell me WTF Gord Ash does for a living as well

Back up the Brinks truck and raid the Cardinals organization because Antanasio is getting a crappy return on his investment

5/28/137:15 PM

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