Heard an interesting stat today. If the Packers beat the Bolts this week and then can win against the 49ers (yes I get it, a huge game), Green Bay will have beaten 7 of the top 10 scoring defenses in the NFL. That would be simply stunning and a hell of an accomplishment for MLF.
Also, for those shaking about the Niners, they have beaten teams with a combined 16-35 record. The vaunted Patriots? If you take away their Bills win, the teams they have beaten are a combined 9-40.
ChilliJon posted:Pistol GB posted:DH13 posted:24hrs to the trade deadline. Who is out there at ILB?
Now that's a desperation move I might get behind. No idea though.
Now this really pisses me off. "Desperation Move".
First off. There is nothing wrong about trying to improve a roster via a trade with value. Ever.
You have so fully entrenched yourself in "We're fine at WR" that you've come to the point that any trade is desperation. You are covering an argument with shortsiighted bullshit.
If a trade is there with value. Make it. And for fuck sakes sakes it won't be out of Desperation.
When you're talking an 8 game rental, yes I think the need has to be really great to give up draft picks. That's pretty much the definition of "desperate." It would have been for Sanders, I don't think we are there at WR, and I think it is the opposite of shortsighted.
ILB on the other hand.
packerboi posted:Heard an interesting stat today. If the Packers beat the Bolts this week and then can win against the 49ers (yes I get it, a huge game), Green Bay will have beaten 7 of the top 10 scoring defenses in the NFL. That would be simply stunning and a hell of an accomplishment for MLF.
Also, for those shaking about the Niners, they have beaten teams with a combined 16-35 record. The vaunted Patriots? If you take away their Bills win, the teams they have beaten are a combined 9-40.
Green Bay is going to beat the brakes off SF. GB is a matchup nightmare SF wants no part of. GB might win that one by doubles.
Yeah, this isn’t The Wizard. Look at how many different guys he’s put out in the backfield. Get over the Hawk/Bishop bullshit. Yes, he’s a liability in coverage. I’m sure that’s what KC fans are saying about their LBs. Maybe a decade of being bottom dwellers like the Bears is the solution.
Floridarob posted:Cowherds show is spending a good deal of the day putting down the Packers defense. Dilfer and Bucky Brooks are botn on board saying they are opportunistic but wont stop a good Qb come play off time. I dont necessarily disagree. I would like to watch them stop someone in the middle of the field. 3rd and long for the opposition is feeling a lot more like Capers defense than what we hoped. Dilfer was really putting Petines overall defense down saying they have always relied too much on turnovers. While a WR would be nice, maybe a Golden Tate or someone of that ilk, a coverage LB would be nicer. I dont know if anyone out there that is a difference maker is really available.
You lost me after Cowherd. Watch the games. You'll see what's wrong. Cowherd will never tell you thing about GB that you shouldn't already know.
To be fair the Packers opponents they've beat are 26-25-1 and overall their scheduled opponents are 47-50-1. NE has definitely had a cake walk thus far, they're about to get into the meat of their schedule though...@BAL, BYE, @PHI, DAL, @HOU, KC, and BUF with cupcake games against CIN and MIA as well. They won't leave that stretch unscathed, but yeah it's not like they've really been challenged. Same for San Fran, they've not really been challenged and are about to play SEA twice, GB, NO, and BAL. I think NO really works them over good.
I concur on the Saints slapping the Niners around. They're looking like the most complete team in the NFC in my opinon....
Boris posted:You can't manufacture a guy out of thin air.
Do the Packers have $6M lying around?
They have $8.7 million give or take but robots aren't allowed.
Except for Aaron Rodgers, who is basically Keanu Reeves.
ammo posted:Boris posted:You can't manufacture a guy out of thin air.
Sure you can. It's called fantasy football. As for Burks and Summers, they might be worse than Martinez. Didn't think of that did you 'ded?
Indeed I did think of that and that's why I said "The stats above point out that you can't get much worse so why not let Burks or Summers have a go at it? "
Pistol GB posted:ChilliJon posted:Pistol GB posted:DH13 posted:24hrs to the trade deadline. Who is out there at ILB?
Now that's a desperation move I might get behind. No idea though.
Now this really pisses me off. "Desperation Move".
First off. There is nothing wrong about trying to improve a roster via a trade with value. Ever.
You have so fully entrenched yourself in "We're fine at WR" that you've come to the point that any trade is desperation. You are covering an argument with shortsiighted bullshit.
If a trade is there with value. Make it. And for fuck sakes sakes it won't be out of Desperation.
When you're talking an 8 game rental, yes I think the need has to be really great to give up draft picks. That's pretty much the definition of "desperate." It would have been for Sanders, I don't think we are there at WR, and I think it is the opposite of shortsighted.
ILB on the other hand.
Are you saying you've got inside knowledge of future desperate contracts for potential WR's that don't apply to LB's?
Niners are very solid. Worried about their run game against us as well as Kittle. He's the #1 TE in the NFL IMO. As to their record, these are the QB's the've faced so far:
1) Jameis Winston
2) Andy Dalton
3) Mason Rudolph
4) Baker Mayfield
5) Jared Goff (with no run game)
6) Case Keenum
7) Kyle Allen
If we can protect Rodgers, we will do damage against their LB's and DB's.
I'm not really following that. I think we are desperate enough at ILB to consider a mid-season trade that would probably involve a draft pick. It looks pretty bleak at ILB for sure.
Sanders' and Green's future contracts are going to be market driven (i.e. huge) and probably too steep for Gute to extend for receivers on the wrong side of 30. No I don't know that for sure (it's a future event), but that's how it looks. That would happen next year so we would only get them for the rest of this season.
As for potential ILB's, like I said I have no idea, that's why I said I "might" get behind it. I'll say this, any ILB up for trade should be easier to extend than big name guys like Sanders and Green if he works out in GB.
I don't think Sanders is going anywhere for the rest of the season. Future event but I'm pretty certain.
Right I was talking about next season and whether we would have been able to extend him if we had traded for him. (This started because I previously called a trade for Sanders, who Chili wanted, a "desperation trade" in a different thread.)
YATittle posted:I recall Bishop couldn't get on the field either, until he did and we finally saw he wasn't that bad.
Bishop never saw the field until Barnett was hurt then Barnett cried like a child he wasn’t invited to the SB team pic in Dallas. Barnett is everyones Thanksgiving invite that complains about everything but never brings anything. Never forget. Barnett tapped out for the year in 2010 with a wrist injury that turned out to be nothing
Barnett trying to play himself off as a savior in Buffalo lasted 1 year until his desire expiration date set in.
Bishop ripping his hammy into two pieces in a pre season tilt in San Diego 8 years ago was the last time GB saw a real ILB.
You can do a lot worse than Martinez at MLB. No, he isn't Lewis or Buttkiss or whoever, but the kid can play the game.
No. He can’t. He’s not good. At all. He really needs to go far away. Forever.
"Buttkiss or whoever"
ChilliJon posted:No. He can’t. He’s not good. At all. He really needs to go far away. Forever.
You don't lead the National Football League in tackles by sucking. You just don't. Stop it.
Martinez is like a rescue puppy to everyone. He’s scrappy and chases things. And sometimes he catches those things. A lot of the time he doesn’t catch those things and runs around doing stupid puppy things like sniffing holes.
Again, I don't think anybody is confusing Blake Martinez with Ray Lewis... but the kid is nowhere near as bad as you're projecting him to be.
Pakrz posted:ChilliJon posted:No. He can’t. He’s not good. At all. He really needs to go far away. Forever.
You don't lead the National Football League in tackles by sucking. You just don't. Stop it.
Actually. You can lead the NFL in tackles and suck. It’s happened. A lot.
This guy is from the high school I teach at. Quality character. Talked to his dad a lot over time.
Krys Barnes, ILB, UCLA
Height: 6-1. Weight: 235.
Projected 40 Time: 4.63.
Projected Round (2020): 3-5.
10/19/19: Barnes has gotten off to a strong start in 2019, and team sources have said he has impressed them. Barnes has 42 tackles with a sack and four passes defended this year. He collected 85 tackles with an interception and six passes broken up as a junior. Barnes is a well-balanced defender against the run and the pass.
ChilliJon posted:Pakrz posted:ChilliJon posted:No. He can’t. He’s not good. At all. He really needs to go far away. Forever.
You don't lead the National Football League in tackles by sucking. You just don't. Stop it.
Actually. You can lead the NFL in tackles and suck. It’s happened. A lot.
Disagree.
ChilliJon posted:Actually. You can lead the NFL in tackles and suck. It’s happened. A lot.
Would be interested to see a list.
That projected 40 time looks pretty slow.
No more slow LB'ers
ChilliJon posted:No. He can’t. He’s not good. At all. He really needs to go far away. Forever.
And after he goes far away, then what?
ChilliJon posted:Pakrz posted:ChilliJon posted:No. He can’t. He’s not good. At all. He really needs to go far away. Forever.
You don't lead the National Football League in tackles by sucking. You just don't. Stop it.
Actually. You can lead the NFL in tackles and suck. It’s happened. A lot.
https://www.pro-football-refer...ned_year_by_year.htm
Lot of suck on this list. 🙄
It’s more fair to say below average players HAVE led the league in tackles, but it’s rare. In the last 20 years it’s maybe happened 2-3 times.
packerboi posted:The vaunted Patriots? If you take away their Bills win, the teams they have beaten are a combined 9-40.
9-40 compared to 14-42 does seem considerably less impressive.
Grave Digger posted:ChilliJon posted:Pakrz posted:ChilliJon posted:No. He can’t. He’s not good. At all. He really needs to go far away. Forever.
You don't lead the National Football League in tackles by sucking. You just don't. Stop it.
Actually. You can lead the NFL in tackles and suck. It’s happened. A lot.
https://www.pro-football-refer...ned_year_by_year.htm
Lot of suck on this list. 🙄
It’s more fair to say below average players HAVE led the league in tackles, but it’s rare. In the last 20 years it’s maybe happened 2-3 times.
Damn, was tackling illegal in 1978?
X4 whipping boy
GBFanForLife posted:X4 whipping boy
The new Jerret Bush
Like Sugar Bear says....Somebody has to be.
What do all x4 whipping boys have in common? They all sucked.
While he was never very good, Martinez played a lot of ILB and made a lot of tackles on some average to bad Packer defenses and always seemed like a decent guy.
Sad to Blake Martinez get caught up in this.
@SteveLuke posted:While he was never very good, Martinez played a lot of ILB and made a lot of tackles on some average to bad Packer defenses and always seemed like a decent guy.
Sad to Blake Martinez get caught up in this.
Blame Gute.
