Good stat from @markdanielsWNFL to Matt LaFleur just now: Jon Runyan Jr. hasn't committed a penalty in 1,053 offensive snaps this season. LaFleur very complimentary of Runyan's steadying presence at left guard amid all the O-line injuries.
— Matt Schneidman (@mattschneidman) January 12, 2022
@michiganjoe posted:Good stat from @markdanielsWNFL to Matt LaFleur just now: Jon Runyan Jr. hasn't committed a penalty in 1,053 offensive snaps this season. LaFleur very complimentary of Runyan's steadying presence at left guard amid all the O-line injuries.
— Matt Schneidman (@mattschneidman) January 12, 2022
That is winning football
He's a keeper. And in the 6th round????
FO sucks.
Oline might be the easiest position to draft.
FO sucks if they fuck up the relationship of the guy he's blocking for. One, titanic, colossal, massive, super sized fuck up wipes out any good in finding guys who will have to block for Blinders McDuckpass. They might not look so great.
As much as I like John Schneider, he has done Seattle no favors when it comes to their O-line either. Bengals O-line is awful as well.
Yep. John Schneider has swung and missed several times. Dallas was only as stout as they were because they had at one time 5/5 OL were all first rounders.
Finding OL is way harder then it seems. And then you hand to coach them up. Also easier said than done. The Packers have been outstanding there as well.
@packerboi posted:Finding OL is way harder then it seems. And then you hand to coach them up. Also easier said than done. The Packers have been outstanding there as well.
The spread offenses in college are all about speed - and most of them operate from the shotgun in hurry up style. That makes it easier on the college OL, they don't have to learn how to finish blocks. Just punch and go
When they get to the NFL, many of the OL have never even been in a 3 point stance, many haven't developed a repertoire of techniques because they didn't face 2nd moves from the college pass rushers. One hit and the play is over. NFL is very different and a rude awakening for some of these guys
“You rarely see offensive linemen in three-point stances,” an NFC scout said to me. “They are always in a two-point stance (in the spread) and they spend most of the game position blocking pass rushers on quick throws. You rarely see them fire off the ball in the run game or execute some of the tasks we will ask them to do at the NFL level.
“It makes the evaluation harder because you’re projecting so much when grading offensive linemen.”
Then you take an under-developed OL and drop him into the new CBA NFL - with limited practice times, limited hitting, limited everything and it makes it really tough to see quick development.
"You don't have enough time to develop guys on the field," a veteran offensive line coach who's worked at all levels of the game told me. "Playing on the offensive line requires a lot of reps and you simply don't have enough opportunities to teach them through live contact. Plus, the padded-practice limitations during the regular season make it harder to prepare young players to get ready for the pro game."
Drafting talented OL is harder than ever and developing them is a bigger challenge than in the past. That really shines on a light on how good GB has been with their selections and how good Campen/ Stenovich are at turning them into players.
Not many teams survive the loss of LT1, fewer still survive the loss of LT2 and end up the #1 seed in their conference
Probably why college OL from Michigan, Wisconsin and Ohio State are drafted highly and all over all 7 rounds
@Satori posted:Not many teams survive the loss of LT1, fewer still survive the loss of LT2 and end up the #1 seed in their conference
Hell, they even went a couple of drives in the Browns game without LT3.
@Henry posted:Oline might be the easiest position to draft.
FO sucks if they fuck up the relationship of the guy he's blocking for. One, titanic, colossal, massive, super sized fuck up wipes out any good in finding guys who will have to block for Blinders McDuckpass. They might not look so great.
That is exactly why OL make 15 bucks an hour. They are so easy to replace. Doode, aren’t you studying Econ?
Maybe Henry means they can be found in all rounds of the draft except maybe the 7th round where it's hard to find an NFL-caliber player.
Mark Tauscher?
He's not an OL. 
Just talking 7th round talent in general...
Adam Timmerman
Hell, Bakh was a fourth round pick. What a steal.
We're talking 7th round picks, not 4th.
@Harry Manback posted:Maybe Henry means they can be found in all rounds of the draft except maybe the 7th round where it's hard to find an NFL-caliber player.
That would be too obvious because the Packers past history hasn't bore that out at all. That's why guys like Lang, Sitton, Tauscher, etc were all flops.
Hendrickson appears to be the oline guru. Still love the Ozzie Newsome influence mixed with TT influence.
Remember at the start of TT's GM career he was drafting a bunch of converted TE's because clowns like Jagodumbfuck wanted to run a pure ZBS? That worked out well. Then TT just started drafting straight up oline guys in college and that seemed to work out pretty well.
Go figure.
I still remember laughing because all of a sudden they decided to run a "hybrid ZBS".
Guy got his ass whipped all season long. If he is starting for the Packers next season, the Packers have failed.
