Ryan Braun's last games?

I'll remember him as a pretty talented player that lied to our faces and permanently tarnished his reputation. 

I think most people will eventually forget all that stuff (like Favre going to Minnesota) and he will hear way more cheers than boos as a retired Brewer. But there will always be some boos mixed in. 

I will NEVER GET OVER BERT AT THE QUEENS.      

I will never forget or forgive the lying and then the attempt at destroying an individual’s reputation. Like Favre’s transgressions, those are personality traits that don’t change.

If he had owned up to juicing it would be a different thing (because I have gone very soft on players juicing).  The lie train will always be there though.  

Watching him and Prince and Hart and Weeks was pretty fun though

@Blair Kiel posted:

I will never forget or forgive the lying and then the attempt at destroying an individual’s reputation. Like Favre’s transgressions, those are personality traits that don’t change.

I think Braun actually did change based on everything that I have heard.  I think he truly learned something from everything that came down.  I don't think the changes he made to himself were just for show, I think he really truly got humbled at least a little bit.  

Favre... you may be right, I think he's possibly still a bit of a phony.  Honestly, to me the thing that made me most disappointed in Favre wasn't even what he did to the Packers.  It was when he was harrassing one of the Jets female employees and wouldn't apologize to the husband of the employee for it.  That's bull*!@t !!  Own up to your sh***y behavior and make an apology. 

The stuff between Favre and the Packers is business and I can separate business from his personal life.  But harassing an employee like he did, that's low class and has nothing to do with business.  That's just being a crappy human being.  

Edit:  One thing to add to this.  I believe Braun truly was remorseful when he reached out to the guy whose life he impacted negatively.  Who knows, maybe it was all just for show, but from everything I've heard, Braun actually learned from his crappy behavior, was humbled by the backlash, and became a better human being.  I have my doubts Favre ever really changed.