Sam Shields

Reading to many press clippings.

never gonna get another ring on his neck playing like that

he had a bad game. needs to clean some things up. he should follow tramon's example to learn how to become a true pro.

I made note of this after the colts game and you chastised me for it.

I did? Hindsight is 20-20.

I generally throw out things I see in the pre-season but when I see the same thing in a regular season game, I stand up and take notice.

I usually do too, but he looked soooooo bad against Reggie Wayne that night.

I started getting concerened about him when he showed up with that big ass tattoo on his neck. made me wonder is he was in the proper frame of mind or not.

Maybe with the lockout over the summer he spent too much time hanging at the U?

I don't know, it's one game against the best they will see all year. Too small a sample to be concerned yet.

I agree

Tramon got beat too on a long TD. Those plays are going to happen. Especially against a great QB like Brees and pretty good receivers like the Saints had. Nothing to be ashamed of there. Put it behind you and get the next one. It is not like they were picking on Sam every play because he could not cover. that play he got beat.

neck = irresponsible unfocused dum dum

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Originally posted by chickenboy:
Maybe with the lockout over the summer he spent too much time hanging at the U?

I don't know, it's one game against the best they will see all year. Too small a sample to be concerned yet.

I agree with CB.

WTF just happened?

I need to take a shower.

I saw him make some nice plays as well. Hopefully the staff will get on him to be more consistent.

It is clear that if someone had organized some off-season workouts, none of this would be happening.

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Originally posted by Floridarob:
Tramon got beat too on a long TD. Those plays are going to happen. Especially against a great QB like Brees and pretty good receivers like the Saints had. Nothing to be ashamed of there. Put it behind you and get the next one. It is not like they were picking on Sam every play because he could not cover. that play he got beat.

One game isn't a trend. Let's see how he plays against some lesser WRs.

sample size is small but it never hurts to get on a young guy who experienced INCREDIBLE success in his first year and may now think that he knows it all and may not be as focused as he was and needs a little bit of a reality check.

I trust Vitt to handle that with him.
and if it should become a problem House will be breathing down his neck soon.

I'm not too worried about SHields. He struggles with that initial jam (happened twice in the Super Bowl) but it's something that is correctable. Unlike an Ahmad Carroll, Joey Thomas, etc., this is a technique issue that can be corrected, not an overall unawareness on the field. Lets hope he improves on this over the year.

His talent was on display on the coverage he had on Henderson earlier in the game, where he had a chance at an int. It's good to know that your nickel CB can run with any player in the league.

mistakes aside, anyone else want to name a better nickel corner in the league you would rather have?

DRC on the Dream Team??

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Originally posted by Boris:
DRC on the Dream Team??

He was owned by the Packers in 2009/2010. He still has burn holes in his jersey.

So after one game, Shields is in a sophomore slump because he go beat on one play? Tramon got beat once too, you know. They were playing against Drew Brees.

If you're expecting Shields to be Darrelle Revis at the very start of his second pro season, and third season playing CB at any level, you might want to lower your expectations a bit. He's at least as good as Tramon Williams was at this stage - better, if you ask me.

Like nearly every CB in the league, he's going to get beat once in a while. On most plays, opposing QBs will have the choice of going after Williams, Woodson or Shields. And since I've yet to see the defense that could hold most QB's to under 50% completion ratios, you can expect to see Shields get burned some more as the season goes on.

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Originally posted by NJWIS:
anyone else want to name a better nickel corner in the league you would rather have?

I wouldn't mind putting Revis behind Wood and Tramon.

Shields is fine. He has rare speed, can locate the ball ,play on the ball, and even tackles pretty well. He is still raw and will only get better....and Joe Witt is his coach !!!

If you play like Shields did when he was a rookie, 2nd year expectations are going to be very high. (as they should be). The play against Henderson the other night was a reenactment of the TD against Wallace in the Super bowl.

Considering it's only his 3rd season playing CB, and he was playing drew brees and he had the entire offseason to himself, i'm not all that surprised he's not playing at quite the same level.

That said, I would expect shields to pick it up. Or at least I would hope shields picks it up. He, obviously, allowed Capers to do a lot with their defense.

He's in his second year, third year playing the position. Expect growing pains all year. How many times did Tramon get burned before late 09 and 2010? Plenty. Only concern is him keeping his head on straight and in the film room. He does that and he'll be Tramon II by second half of next year.

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So after one game, Shields is in a sophomore slump because he go beat on one play? Tramon got beat once too, you know. They were playing against Drew Brees.

Talked about it in another thread right after the game- back to back plays, Colston roasts him on a square in, the next play is the TD, and he dropped an INT.

But the secondary as a whole looked bad. It seemed to me that Brees was throwing to a LOT of open guys. Radgers was throwing into tight windows, but Brees was throwing to guys with defenders trailing them.

They had a bad day. It's not a trend... yet.

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Originally posted by Boris:
DRC on the Dream Team??

You're joking here right? The Packers whipped DRC in the 2009 playoff game and I've seen a few other games where DRC gets beat like a red headed step child. I can't wait for to expose him again.

Shields should get better as the season progress's. I dont think you can completely shut down the Saints offense when all their guys are healthy and Brees is not getting hit in the pocket.

GB starts the season slowly every year as a team.Its almost like Gb is still playing preseason games.Now they cant tackle live and only 14 padded practices a year as well as camp being limited. No More two adays in camp what would Magee and Hourning think if Lombardi only had them practice once a day in camp?

Anyway with GB starting slowly we have something to look foward to as the season progresses.Shields with a nice long Pick Six allowing him to show his speed off.

Maybe when I see him look all over the place for a ball as it easily goes into the receivers hands (ala Bush), then I'll worry. Beat or not, he seems to have an awareness of at least where the ball is, and they're not picking on him every play.

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I'm not too worried about SHields. He struggles with that initial jam (happened twice in the Super Bowl) but it's something that is correctable. Unlike an Ahmad Carroll, Joey Thomas, etc., this is a technique issue that can be corrected, not an overall unawareness on the field. Lets hope he improves on this over the year.

Well said.. He has great ball skills and amazing speed. That cant be taught.

You can teach him to stop whiffing on the jam. I'm not worried after one game against Drew Brees and the Saints.

One game at the beginning of the season after a shortened offseason. Just not seeing a reason to think Shields is melting down.