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oshbaul posted:

Could we all just improve that trophy?

This is what the original1930 trophy, originally called "Victory" (it's supposed to represent Nike) and renamed the Jules Rimet Trophy in 1946, looked like:

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Brazil won it for the third time and got to keep it, in 1970. In 1983 it was stolen and never recovered. The 1974 edition is the same as today:

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I guess you get the idea of Nike holding up the world, but it's not the most beautiful trophy. (While I love collecting Lombardis, the best-looking trophy in sports is the Stanley Cup.) I read somewhere that the World Cup looks like it is filled with chocolate and waiting to be unwrapped -- true! 

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Soccer is the sport of the future---and it always will be. 

I'm always amused by those professing their dislike for it....nobody is making you watch. Is it possible because you don't understand and appreciate it, you feel a bit left out and therefore the need to denigrate it?

Maybe we need a thread on how much I hate cricket.

Never paid much attention to soccer until we had a foreign exchange son from Spain who was a good player and now a coach. Started to understand it more, and can appreciate the players ability to see 2-3 moves ahead, along with their skill level. He is into analytics regarding spacing between players, effect of alignments on scoring opportunities, etc. As in any sport that you don't play / coach, there is a lot going on out there that I don't realize. 

Blair Kiel posted:

Soccer is the sport of the future---and it always will be. 

I'm always amused by those professing their dislike for it....nobody is making you watch. Is it possible because you don't understand and appreciate it, you feel a bit left out and therefore the need to denigrate it?

Maybe we need a thread on how much I hate cricket.

Soooo, you're saying Henry doesn't fully appreciate SPDF?

I'm always amused by those professing their dislike for it....nobody is making you watch. Is it possible because you don't understand and appreciate it, you feel a bit left out and therefore the need to denigrate it?

What's always bugged me is that people take things that happen in sports popular in America and claim those things are deal-breakers regarding soccer.  Players flop all the time in basketball and dive in hockey, but somehow it's only soccer diving that's terrible.  Baseball is boring, and games can take twice as long as soccer.  But say that to a soccer hater and they'll respond with horror.  We've also seen players fake injury in the NFL to stop no-huddle offenses, but it's only soccer players faking injury that's terrible.

Blair Kiel posted:

Soccer is the sport of the future---and it always will be. 

I'm always amused by those professing their dislike for it....nobody is making you watch. Is it possible because you don't understand and appreciate it, you feel a bit left out and therefore the need to denigrate it?

Maybe we need a thread on how much I hate cricket.

I dunno. I hate baseball. Totally get not liking soccer.

I will watch the final game and the Olympic finals, both women's and men's but not much else.  I think the reason that most folks my age, 70, can take it or leave it is this.....we took our kids to youth soccer games way back in the early days here in the US, guess what, nothing happened.  The coaches did not know the game, the kids just ran around for a while till they got bored and the fans gave a communal sigh.  I know that happens in kids baseball too but we Americans have a shared background in BB, heck my wife, not a sports fan will watch the World Series with me. Why?  She has fond memories of listening to and watching games with her dad and that translates to her.

Will soccer forge that bond with our population? Who knows but they have tried for years and in my opinion it is not over the hump yet.

You are describing indoor soccer. Smaller field but fewer players = a whole lot more goals and a whole lot more action. The problem? Soccer fans don't want to watch that ****. I certainly don't. Indoor soccer is more like hockey. It takes less skill to accomplish the same things. Smash that ball upfield, and ten guys converge on the ball. May the luckiest man win.

That soccer goals are so hard to come by is why we love the goals so much. Every soccer goal requires essentially perfect execution(unless Harry Kane is involved ). Every goal is a great goal. Accidental goals very rarely happen. Not like in football where very often miscommunication leads to a wide open receiver. Apparently, there is no Dom Capers equivalent in soccer.

Hey Goalline, if you're talking indoor soccer as the game played with walls, etc., you're correct. But if you're talking futsal, well, that's a whole different ballgame. Futsal is played with only four players and a goalie per side; changes are on the fly like hockey; there's no offsides; the footwork is incredible; the ball is heavier and doesn't bounce as high; many of the big soccer names today played futsal (Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar, Ronaldinho, etc.) and they credit the game with helping them learn how to move in traffic. 

Take a couple minutes out of your day to watch some cool highlights: click here or go to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBB8PDenGJM 

Or click here to watch Ronaldinho, Zindane and FC Barcalona play futsal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=853FJBM5MuQ

Futsal is amazing to watch as it's super fast and far more creative than soccer!

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