Nobody is catching the ball and running except the occasional screen.
Culd be hyperbole, but I'm guessing the yac this year is no where close to what it was the last couple of years.
Abby can fix all this.
It is worth a try. We are one player different from last year's NFCC team.
The lack of YAC is still a function of the man to man coverage, which is killing us. A single deep threat could cause teams to stop using it and open up the whole offense.
This according to HOFer Charles Woodson after he played us. So yeah.
MichiganPacker posted:cuqui posted:Agree pboi but there's no question 12 has missed more throws, many not that difficult, this season than were used to seeing.
I wonder how much of this is a reduction in Rodgers' accuracy versus having receivers that can make adjustments to passes. We see an overthrow to Jones, but that same pass to Jordy Nelson is a TD...
Totally agree with your points about Jordy and the rest of your post, but I'm a bit puzzled by your comments I quoted.
Not trying to flame or fight, but the problem I see is that ARod is not throwing to Jordy (obviously). If they are not capable of catching it within the same 'halo' as him, why would he still be throwing to that spot?
I certainly can't explain it, but ARod has been just a tick off this entire season. It's not by much in most cases, but he has missed a lot of passes to guys who were open or otherwise had a chance for a reception. Some have been a tick long, some have been too high, and some have been just a touch too early or too late.
Aaron Rodgers used to be highly accurate. This year he is not. The one throw to Adams a couple weeks ago that he didn't have a chance to get both feet in was a normal Rodgers throw. For some reason this year, everything is just off.
Timmy! posted:MichiganPacker posted:cuqui posted:Agree pboi but there's no question 12 has missed more throws, many not that difficult, this season than were used to seeing.
I wonder how much of this is a reduction in Rodgers' accuracy versus having receivers that can make adjustments to passes. We see an overthrow to Jones, but that same pass to Jordy Nelson is a TD...
Totally agree with your points about Jordy and the rest of your post, but I'm a bit puzzled by your comments I quoted.
Not trying to flame or fight, but the problem I see is that ARod is not throwing to Jordy (obviously). If they are not capable of catching it within the same 'halo' as him, why would he still be throwing to that spot?I certainly can't explain it, but ARod has been just a tick off this entire season. It's not by much in most cases, but he has missed a lot of passes to guys who were open or otherwise had a chance for a reception. Some have been a tick long, some have been too high, and some have been just a touch too early or too late.
I guess the crux of my comment is that maybe Rodgers' accuracy isn't any that much different this year, it's just that the margin for error has diminished dramatically.
Jordy Nelson and players like him track the ball better in the air and are able to catch it in stride. Sometimes they alter their speed to adjust to balls that are slightly underthrown and sometimes they have an extra burst to catch up to a ball that is slightly overthrown. We see a catch where the WR is hit right in stride and say "what a great throw" but maybe it's just as much about the WR making it look like a great throw.
I guess I never thought about this as much until this year when Rodgers would throw a deep ball to Adams or Janis and you'll see them veering off to the left or right while the ball is in the air or slowing up. The throw then looks like it was off, but it was really the inability of the receiver to adjust. The best receivers also have a way to not give away that the ball is coming until the last minute so the CB has less time to adjust. I read somewhere where some elite DBs will look for the WRs pupils to change or some subtle aspect of posture to change to know when to react. Learning how to maximize the chance for success is where the coaching comes in and it's probably very hard stuff to learn.
In the end, I think I as a fan just underestimated how these little things WRs do end up making the QB look better. I just thought - well if we have Favre or Rodgers it doesn't matter what WRs we have- they'll make them look great. That's maybe not the case. Also, we NEED A FULL TIME WR COACH IN THE WORST WAY. Edgar Bennett was probably great there. It seems like many members of our coaching staff got overpromoted or promoted too soon to keep them from leaving and now a bunch of coaches are all learning new roles simultaneously.
Love to see a link on the pupil change that a DB observes just before the ball arrives.
The ball blocks out the sun, so the pupils dilate.
Easy...we both could cover Dez Bryant. No problem 
Adam's working on the JUGS machine
Someone said Jordy is not a burner, yet he burns DB's deep consistently.
"We wanted the ball in his hands as soon as we could get it there and as often as we could get it there," said Steve Wagner, Nelson's football coach at Riley County High School in Riley, Kan., about the player he describes as one of the more athletic he's seen in over 30 years. "We designed our offense around his abilities. Once he graduates you're running the same plays and you're thinking, 'uh, this doesn't quite look the same.'"
Graduates, or is injured?
A four-time champion his senior year in high school, Nelson set state records in the 100- and 200-meter dashes, and he just missed state records in the 400 and the long jump.
The guy is a burner, pure and simple.
Is Steve Wagner available to coach wr's in GB?
CAPackFan95 posted:You don't know speed.
Of course he was fast. He had to run away from this thing every morning:
Shoulda brought the dentist with him
Boris posted:The ball blocks out the sun, so the pupils dilate.
Easy...we both could cover Dez Bryant. No problem
Dez's pupils are permanently dilated! 
Pikes Peak posted:Love to see a link on the pupil change that a DB observes just before the ball arrives.
Maybe not pupil change, but a lot of stuff on reading the WR's face.
http://www.nytimes.com/1983/09....html?pagewanted=all
http://www.catscratchreader.co...e-snap-and-post-snap
In man coverage you'll see the CB turn his back on the QB and shadow his WR all over the field. Rather than relying on the QB's eyes to make a break, in man coverage, CB's have to read their man's face, as well as his arms (if the WR is outstretching his arms, the ball is probably coming his way) for clues of an incoming pass. In man, the corners provide no help in run support.
Article on Richard Sherman
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/20...-seahawks-cornerback
Many cornerbacks struggle with this concept. It's what separates the good from the bad and the good from the great. You can be shifty as hell, have great footwork, long arms, be physical at the line, but if you can't look back and locate the football when you need to, you'll get burned.
This means, if a corner is trailing in coverage, he must keep his eye on the receiver's eyes and his arms/hands. If the receiver looks back or up for the football, that's usually a good indication he's tracking it in the air. The instant he raises his hands to make a catch, a corner disrupts the trajectory of the ball by swiping or clubbing.
Here's where I read the pupils part. It's a book written by Pat Kirwan who was a long time NFL scout and has written for Si.com. Don't know if he's correct, but I found it interesting.
Take Your Eye Off the Ball 2.0: How to Watch Football by Knowing Where to Look
https://books.google.com/books...rnerback&f=false
"A cornerback is trained to read a receiver's reactions; when the eyes get wide or the receiver starts moving his hands into position the pass, the corner puts his hands in to knock it away. For all of his freakish athletic abilities, (Randy) Moss' greatest asset was his poker face…."