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artis posted:
MichiganPacker2 posted:
Packy posted:
MichiganPacker2 posted:
Packy posted:

Both quarterbacks look shaky.   Rams outplayed but I think they adjust and win.  I’ve seen many games where one team dominates stat wise but doesn’t finish with points.    Too many missed opportunities come back to haunt you.    

Packers need an Edelman type.

You mean like a healthy Randall Cobb?

He’s either more dominant than a healthy Cobb or used more.  And, we know a healthy Cobb for a season was rare.

I think Randall Cobb is the quintessential Patriots player. He'd be used like James White there, instead of whatever he was used as for most of the last few years he was healthy. 

BB would definitely use him that way, but I don't think Cobb is anywhere near as savvy as Edelman, or Welker, or any Pat who's played that role. Maybe it's a matter of system, but Edelman is a special talent that's not easy to find.

No where near as quick.

Timmy! posted:

Speed is the single greatest skill for a LB to have.
But even the best can still have coverage problems.
If memory serves, Edelman smoked that same LB on a play in the first half.

There’s been some good LBs in history that we’re slow, but none without great instincts.

How Green Bay goes about finding an Edelman.

They think themselves into a moderately talented white guy who is 6' to 6'2". And that's why they're losers. Because the dummies actually believe taller means better.

5'9" - 18 Super Bowl catches, 261 Super Bowl yards. 

Pikes Peak posted:
Blair Kiel posted:

I appreciate the specialness of what that franchise does.

Yup......where's the Speedo pic?

You're making me feel like a piece of meat.

Johnny Z posted:

How Green Bay goes about finding an Edelman.

They think themselves into a moderately talented white guy who is 6' to 6'2". And that's why they're losers. Because the dummies actually believe taller means better.

5'9" - 18 Super Bowl catches, 261 Super Bowl yards. 

Jeff Janis and Abbrederis? 

As I mentioned earlier in the thread, maybe the silver lining is pending retirements of Brady/Belicheat?  We can only hope.

As great as the Patriots accomplishment was this year, you can't help but wonder, did they somehow cheat again?  Man if they did, they have some balls, and they must be geniuses in how they hide it if they still are doing it.  I doubt they did cheat, and yet they have done it the past so you just never know if they've got some other new tech way of knowing EXACTLY what is coming from the Rams and getting it to their players immediately.  I think the chances they were cheating are less than 3%, but since they've been caught red handed before, you can't put it at 0%. 

Two things:

1: More Romo appreciation:

When the Rams finally started moving the ball towards the end of the game, Romo pointed out that the the offense was staying in the huddle longer and waiting to line up until after the play clock had reached 15 seconds....because at 15 seconds the helmet speakers automatically shut off so BB couldn’t call in adjustments after seeing how the Rams lined up for the next play. 

It obviously wasn’t enough to overcome the fact that McVay was thoroughly outcoached, but it was an interesting bit of information that I woulda never noticed. 

2: GOAT

Before tonight I had begrudgingly agreed that Brady was the GOAT, but after watching the game tonight I’m not convinced. 13 points,  his first pass of the game was intercepted and he later fumbled. Half of the QBs in the league could have played in that game and done better than Brady. He’s the luckiest QB in the world to have played for the GOAT coach for his entire career. 

Can you imagine how many more games and Super Bowls Rodgers would have won with that Rams defense? Even with MM's lousy offense the past couple of years, that D would take some of the pressure off Rodgers.

Romo was awful in this game, making so many silly remarks. Heck, when the Pats were going for the PAT the two Bozo's in the booth were continuing their love affair with one another,  coming up for air to announce, oh, yeah, they kicked the PAT.

Cannot fathom why someone wanted in any way to see Suh do something something something to Brady.

Blair Kiel posted:

I appreciate the specialness of what that franchise does.

I am not the biggest Patriots fan but you have to hand it to them.  No matter who is playing for that team they find a way to out scheme the other team in one way or another.  

It was a tough game to watch if you aren't able to focus on the 1-on-1's or were able to see all 22.  All you saw was failed play after failed play for both offenses.  What most couldn't really appreciate is why those plays were failing.  Replays often showed what broke down at or near the ball carrier but there was a lot more going on at other parts of the field that contributed to those failures.  Say what you will about some of the non-PI calls but I saw a lot of outstanding DB play last night on both sides of the ball. 

The most dumbfounding thing through the whole night was how 12 could always find Edeleman WIDE open when he needed him.  And sometimes when he didn't.  And it's not all Edeleman.  There is some serious scheming and playcalling going on too.

bdplant posted:

Two things:

1: More Romo appreciation:

When the Rams finally started moving the ball towards the end of the game, Romo pointed out that the the offense was staying in the huddle longer and waiting to line up until after the play clock had reached 15 seconds....because at 15 seconds the helmet speakers automatically shut off so BB couldn’t call in adjustments after seeing how the Rams lined up for the next play. 

It obviously wasn’t enough to overcome the fact that McVay was thoroughly outcoached, but it was an interesting bit of information that I woulda never noticed. 

2: GOAT

Before tonight I had begrudgingly agreed that Brady was the GOAT, but after watching the game tonight I’m not convinced. 13 points,  his first pass of the game was intercepted and he later fumbled. Half of the QBs in the league could have played in that game and done better than Brady. He’s the luckiest QB in the world to have played for the GOAT coach for his entire career. 

He plays for a great coach and he was only sacked 21 times all year. They have a quick passing game and a great OL. He makes quick decisions. Gronk makes a difference too because you have to scheme to minimize him if at all possible. That's what makes those slot passes to the WRs and RBs so much more effective - you have one less guy to deal with in the middle because you usually have to double Gronk.

Herschel posted:

This was the only time I've ever kind of hoped to see Suh go Albert Haynesworth on an opposing QB. 

I would have liked to see Suh go Suh on an opposing QB. Didn't hear his name called much in this game.

MichiganPacker posted:
bdplant posted:

Two things:

1: More Romo appreciation:

When the Rams finally started moving the ball towards the end of the game, Romo pointed out that the the offense was staying in the huddle longer and waiting to line up until after the play clock had reached 15 seconds....because at 15 seconds the helmet speakers automatically shut off so BB couldn’t call in adjustments after seeing how the Rams lined up for the next play. 

It obviously wasn’t enough to overcome the fact that McVay was thoroughly outcoached, but it was an interesting bit of information that I woulda never noticed. 

2: GOAT

Before tonight I had begrudgingly agreed that Brady was the GOAT, but after watching the game tonight I’m not convinced. 13 points,  his first pass of the game was intercepted and he later fumbled. Half of the QBs in the league could have played in that game and done better than Brady. He’s the luckiest QB in the world to have played for the GOAT coach for his entire career. 

He plays for a great coach and he was only sacked 21 times all year. They have a quick passing game and a great OL. He makes quick decisions. Gronk makes a difference too because you have to scheme to minimize him if at all possible. That's what makes those slot passes to the WRs and RBs so much more effective - you have one less guy to deal with in the middle because you usually have to double Gronk.

Barnwell had a great write up on NE's O prior to the game.  Devlin has been key to what they've been doing in the middle of the field.  Either way, McDaniels and the OL has made Brady's job a lot easier.

Brainwashed Boris posted:

Like Brady said....

If Rodgers played in this offense he'd throw for 7,000 yards.

I believe it. 

If Rodgers had a WR who could get open like Edelman, he could throw for 7,000 yards. Or a TE like Gronk... Again, it comes down to coaching! GB's WR's are rarely as open as Edelman is on most plays. The changes to GB's coaching staff were overdue.

BTW, did anyone else who watched the game notice all the empty seats? My son noticed it before halftime. Couldn't Blank sell out those seats for the Big Game?  I wonder if Goodell noticed.

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