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@fightphoe93 posted:

Let’s hope we’ve seen the last of Roethlisberger.  Glad I’m not a Steelers fan forced to root for a pretty bad human being running my offense.  He was a great QB, probably one of the best 25 QBs ever, but just a lousy guy off the field.  

Yes. Antonio Brown has some issues, obviously. He's not a great comparison.

On the other hand, Leveon Bell has seemed to be a good teammate and is not a locker room cancer. He left Pittburgh over 5 million dollars over 5 years. He wanted 5 years and 75 million and they offered 5 years and 70 million (but only 10 million guaranteed). 

https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/03...final-contract-offer

Big Ben over the same time frame, got 6 years and over 150 million with 67 million guaranteed. He was credibly accused of sexual assault at least twice. Yet, Bell and Brown were made out to be crazy for holding out for more money and deemed "character risks."

Rodgers- just turned 37

Brees- turns 42 Friday

Brady- Turned 43 in August

Roethlisberger- turns 39 in March

Rivers- just turned 39 in December

I think it’s amazing that these 5 men are leading playoff teams this season. 3 or 4 of these guys are expected to retire after this season.

With Rivers and Roethlisberger out, and Brees and Brady playing each other, the NFC is guanteed to have a QB playing in the NFCC Game that started playing more than a decade ago.

All the young bucks are in the AFC. And if you think about it, the next wave will be too. If you go by 2020 QB rating, the AFC has all the top young QBs: Mahomes, Watson, Jackson, Allen, maybe Herbert. NFC might have Kyler Murray, but that’s it as far as “next” is concerned.

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@PackerHawk posted:

Jacksonville and NY Jets are getting the "next big thing" at QB too, barring trades. The AFC also has Burrow who looks like another really good young QB.

NFC I would include Dak as a really good young QB. After that? Goff? Daniel Jones? Ooof.

And in the NFC the other great QB (Wilson) and the key above-average guys (Cousins and Stafford) turn 33 next year. Matt Ryan will be 36. That's besides Rodgers, Brees, and Brady.

Goff, Wenz, Trubisky, D. Jones, Haskins, Winston, and even Garapollo have not panned out. Just like Mariotta, Rosen, and Darnold in the AFC.

I'm not sold on Kyler Murray's longevity. Maybe he'll be like Russell Wilson over his career, but I doubt it.

With the exception of the Cowboys, the entire NFC could be looking for QBs in the next 3 years.

In the AFC, obviously Big Ben and Rivers are near the end of the line and then there are 3 guys under 25 that are really good (Watson, Mahomes, and Allen). After that? Herbert, Mayfield, Jackson, and Burrow look like long-term keepers. Tannehill also turns 33 next year. Cam Newton is done. Tua looked pretty pedestrian away from the talent at Alabama.

What this shows is that here are likely 8-9 guys under the age of 33 that you'd be good with committing to for the long-term: Mahomes, Watson, Allen, Mayfield, Herbert, Jackson, Burrow, Prescott, and maybe Murray.

We'll see about Trevor Lawrence. Is he really the next Andrew Luck or more of a product of the Clemson system?

This kind of resets the whole Jordan Love discussion.

The QB discussion is fascinating

There are really only a handful of young, up and coming or established QBs.  Mahomes, Watson, Allen, Wilson, maybe Mayfield and Herbert and Jackson and Murray.  And Dak.  That’s it.  Carr, Stafford, Dalton, Goff, Jimmy G, Wentz, Bridgewater, Cousins aren’t anything special and Trubisky, Darnold, Lock, Daniel Jones are awful.  The jury is out on Tua and Hurts and Burrow looked very good but he’s coming back from a serious injury so who knows?   Heck, and old and beaten down Phillip Rivers is still better than maybe half the starting QBs out there.  

So if you are a Rodgers or Brady or Brees why not play a few seasons more?  

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@H5 posted:

I Want to Know What Love Is, we all probably do... you should too, PP, before passing judgement.

https://cheeseheadtv.com/blog/...history-of-sorts-403



Green Bay’s Jordan Love has just finished one of the most unique regular seasons in modern NFL history.   He was a quarterback taken in the first round of the draft who didn’t see the field for a single play during his rookie year.

It’s been 15 years since that has happened in the NFL.   The last rookie first round pick who never got on the field was Washington’s Jason Campbell in 2005.   In fact, every first round QB has started at least one game in his rookie year since 2011.   That was the season Jake Locker had to settle for five non-starting appearances for the Tennessee Titans.

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