The Divisional Loss to the Giants

Too soon.

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I recognize that had the defense showed up at all Gb would have won....

The same defense that was good enough for 15 wins showed up. The loss was really caused by a collective meltdown of the offense and coaching staff.

I watched it too. I can't blame it all on the defense. Some poor pass blocking by the RB's really hurt them a few times, Finley killed a drive when he stopped on a route that would have gone for a big gain, Rodgers missed Jennings for a wide open TD early, uncharacteristic fumbles by Grant, Rodgers, and Kuhn, the hail mary before halftime. A couple of those things don't happen and the Pack has a good chance to win. I thought the RB's as a group were very bad with the fumbles, dropped passes, and missed pass blocks. I thought Starks could have scored (maybe) on his long run if he didn't stop his momentum and cut back to the middle of the field.

I did see glimpses of good play from the D. Bishop and Burnett had some good moments (probably some bad too). Some other guys were OK. Overall, just a bad game in general.

I'll never understand how some of you can re-watch a loss.

True this.

I'll get over it when I get over the playoff loss to the eagles

....in the 1960 Championship game ??

Giants were much more physical that day. They were tougher. Mm should have had his guys practicing on the Lambeau parking lot all week. Then we would have won.

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I saw the game again last night on NFLN.

Why?

The defense was bad all year, with the exception of a couple of games. The whole team was bad that day against the Giants.

I don't care what anyone says. The death of Joe Philbin's son played a huge part in that performance.

Once again Boris is the voice of truth and reason.

I totally agree Boris....even as a fan it took the wind out of my fan-dom somewhat for that week. I truly felt going into the game that this tragic event could have an effect on the team...and it did. Everybody seemed off their game...coaches and players alike.

I'll remember the game well enough as it is, and sure don't need to watch it again to be reminded of how winnable it was. Packers didn't bring their "A" game (or "B" game, for that matter) to the playoffs, and they paid the price. Happens to good teams every year.

For me, the 2010 loss wasn't nearly as tough to swallow as 4th and 26 or the Jerry Rice fumble. Haven't watched those games again either.

I tried to watch. When AR missed Jennings I said no more! Really took this loss hard. Much harder than when BF was the QB. You half expected BF to screw up sooner or later. AR seemed invincible. Lets hope the result of the loss is similar to 1960 and Lombardi's team. 5 titles in next 7 years. Go Pack Go.

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Originally posted by mazrimiv:
For me, the 2010 loss wasn't nearly as tough to swallow as 4th and 26 or the Jerry Rice fumble. Haven't watched those games again either.

Tougher for me than any playoff loss, including the SB loss to the Broncos. You go 15-1 and you don't expect the team to lay that kind of egg in the first game at home.

I guess I view it like the 2010 Packers were outplayed by the G-men, so I can live with the loss. The 4th and 26 game felt (to me) like GB was the better team, actually played better, yet found a way to lose the game anyway. GB was flat out screwed on the Rice fumble. Both of those losses were tougher for me to take than 2010.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Henry:


Bill Maher has not aged well!

Don't bad mouth Miracle Max.

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Originally posted by Boris:
I don't care what anyone says. The death of Joe Philbin's son played a huge part in that performance.

As for your statement - I agree with you - and said so earlier.

As for not understanding how anyone could watch the game again - you'd think that a fan with "diehard status" would watch it over and over until every last excuse for not winning could be culled from it.

The PACKER O had too many failures...but the weakness that was worrisome all season long of the D was totally exposed. I still can't view that disc(and probably never will). Still haven't watched my VCR tape of SB XXXII.

The 2011 Packer offense should have been able to put up 50 on any team anywhere.

The only thing I required of the defense was to keep the opponent under 50.

The rest is on the offense.

TT put together a team that was unstoppable, yet they found a way to be stopped.

Can't we all agree that this was a true team effort?

I watched this game several times in the week after the Packers lost to the NYGs. Like you said, when you eliminate the "real-time" emotion of watching it live, you realize just how close the Packers were in coming back to win that game despite all the goofy mistakes (coaching and playing) they were making. Specifically after DD's TD, they had momentum in their grasp. But the stupid onside kicks really backfired on them.

Also, I agree on the tragic death factor. That was a big unfortunate distraction.

Furthermore, I think it was a mistake to have "sat-down" the starters during the Lions game. Although the win against the Lions should have created a spirit of domination and destiny to win the SB, I think that decision combined with the above tragedy, the Packers came into the game feeling over-confident and unfocused.

Remember the first championship loss to the NYGs back in 2007? MM believed in not practicing outdoors in order to prep for the game. Wrong! The Packers got beat then because the elements worked against them, they went prepared to perform. The Giants were ready.

Guess what? Now the Packers practice outside. My hunch is, that MM will do things a little differently if the opportunity presents itself again.

i have never re-watched a packer loss. not once. in the old days, i would record over the vhs tape. these days, i just delete it from the dvr.

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Furthermore, I think it was a mistake to have "sat-down" the starters during the Lions game. Although the win against the Lions should have created a spirit of domination and destiny to win the SB, I think that decision combined with the above tragedy, the Packers came into the game feeling over-confident and unfocused.

I don't think things would have been much different if all the starters had started that game. They would have won just the same, if not by a larger margain. The problem is they hadn't played a "meaningful" game that tested their resilience since...the last time they played NYG late in the season. That's almost 6 weeks of half sleepwalking. I don't know that there is any way to cure overconfidence if you keep winning. I'm not an nfl coach but I hope to hello that MM finds the cure. It goes back to one of his most memorable quotes from last year's preseason, "...our biggest challenge will be how we handle success". He was dead on about that.

I haven't watched the game in awhile, but my recollection was that Hail Mary pass to end the half was HUGE. The game certainly wasn't over, but I know as a fan, that was a stunner and made me pretty nervous. I think the Pack's offense began to press a bit after that which led to some uncharacteristic play by nearly every player other than Driver.

To the defense's credit, they did play much better in the 3rd Quarter and kept the Pack in the game after an awful 1st half. But it just was a bad bad day for everyone other than maybe Driver and a couple other guys. The Giants were peaking at the right time and the Pack was not. Unfortunate, but it happens.

The Pack doesn't need a major overhaul to get back to the Super Bowl, just a few tweaks, and maybe a little bit more of a sense of urgency on the defensive side that they certainly didn't have last year.

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Originally posted by DH13:

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Furthermore, I think it was a mistake to have "sat-down" the starters during the Lions game. Although the win against the Lions should have created a spirit of domination and destiny to win the SB, I think that decision combined with the above tragedy, the Packers came into the game feeling over-confident and unfocused.

I don't think things would have been much different if all the starters had started that game.

Unless one or more of the starters got hurt in that meaningless game. And then the majority of X4 would have lost their minds and wanted MM's head on a platter for doing something so dum.

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Originally posted by PackerHawk:

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Originally posted by DH13:

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Furthermore, I think it was a mistake to have "sat-down" the starters during the Lions game. Although the win against the Lions should have created a spirit of domination and destiny to win the SB, I think that decision combined with the above tragedy, the Packers came into the game feeling over-confident and unfocused.

I don't think things would have been much different if all the starters had started that game.

Unless one or more of the starters got hurt in that meaningless game. And then the majority of X4 would have lost their minds and wanted MM's head on a platter for doing something so dum.

Not me! It would be the others...

fightphoe93 I think you've got it. The D did come back strong after that embarassing end to the first half, and I really thought we'd pull it out until Grant's fumble. Rodgers was pressing the whole game, really, starting with that easy TD pass to Jennings that he overthrew. Most unlike him. And John Kuhn fumbles? JOHN KUHN?????

The missed block by Clifton that resulted in the AR fumble was huge. Jennings was open and it may have been a different game were it not for that play.