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So basically Seattle's Special Teams coach discovered a weakness in the Pack's field goal coverage unit and, shocking I know, AJ Hawk was exploited by the holder/punter Jon Ryan. If this does not seal Slocum's fate, nothing will.

 

From the Seattle Times. http://seattletimes.com/html/s...ksnotebook19xml.html

 

"It wasn’t a desperate grasp for hope in a game that was slipping away. No, this was planned and practiced precision. In the end, it might have been a season-saving play that breathed some life into a team headed for defeat. Who would have thought the Seahawks’ first touchdown in their 28-22 overtime victory would come on a pass from the punter to a reserve lineman on a fake field goal. Down 16-0 late in the third quarter with the offense looking like a disjointed mess, the Seahawks lined up for a 38-yard field-goal attempt from Steven Hauschka.

 

Clint Gresham fired a hard snap to the kneeling Jon Ryan, who placed the nose of the ball on the turf. Hauschka approached the ball and swung his leg, but it came nowhere near contact. Instead, Ryan grabbed the ball and sprinted left. The Packers’ defense seemed stunned. Davon House was three steps behind Ryan and chasing, while A.J. Hawk sprinted toward him ready to deliver a hit that might send Ryan into the sideline.

The Seahawks’ punter didn’t flinch in the unfamiliar situation. On the run, he coolly lofted a soft pass toward the end zone where reserve offensive lineman Garry Gilliam — a one-time tight end at Penn State — stood alone.

 

“It was a run-first play,” Ryan said. “A.J. Hawk kind of bit a little bit. I had the option one way or the other.” Gilliam waited for the looping pass to come down and caught it with ease, giving the Seahawks their first touchdown. “I’m sure it wasn’t that long, but to me it felt like it took forever,” Gilliam said of the pass. Beyond that? “I don’t remember,” he said. “I’m pretty sure I blacked out.” The decision to install the play came midweek from special-teams coordinator Brian Schneider after seeing tendencies from the Packers’ field-goal cover unit. The Seahawks worked on it for the first time Thursday."

 

 

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Demovsky said that according to Sean Richardson the coaching staff didn't even issue an alert to watch for the fake. MM is loyal to his staff to a fault, but it's hard to see how he doesn't make a change.

GBP is right. How Slocum didn't alert everyone to watch for a fake in that situation is staggering. 

 

Add the meltdown on the onside kick. Everyone did exactly what they were supposed to do. Kuhn's block was great. Dick Rodgers block was great. Bostick had to get a body on his guy and Jordy makes an easy catch. Bostck panicked. He panicked because he's been on the shelf and hasnt been practicing. 

 

Slocom has has to be gone after yesterday. GONE!

I don't even blame the fake TD on Hawk.  He was the only guy within 10 yds of the receiver and was no more suprised at the play than the rest of his teammates.  That fake TD rests solely on Slocum's paper shoulders.

 

ST's gaffes impacted way too many games late this year.  Winning in the playoffs cures all those wounds.  Until you lose because of them.  Slocum may finally be bid adieu.

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The morning wouldn't be complete without more Brad Jones and Shawn Slocum. This is ALL COACHING FAIL.

 

http://mmqb.si.com/2015/01/19/...ick-fake-field-goal/

Now for the bigger and bolder decision, the play that ignited Seattle’s comeback, punter Jon Ryan’s 19-yard touchdown pass to Garry Gilliam on a fake field goal. Ryan had been lobbying for the call during the week of practice, after special teams coach Brian Schneider’s staff identified the weak link in the Packers field goal block team.

Reserve linebacker Brad Jones was recklessly aggressive coming off the edge on film. He consistently darted hard to the inside in an effort to get the block, and often went to unnecessary lengths to do so. Against Dallas in their divisional game, he lined up on the left side three times and once on the right, and on one attempt tried to leap over a blocker only to get stonewalled.

So with only five minutes left in the third quarter and Seattle still trailing 16-0, Carroll gave Ryan the go-ahead to execute a fake running play specifically designed for this game. Ryan had two options:

1. Take the snap and roll out to Jones’ side with either Garry Gilliam (left side) or Luke Willson (right) as a receiving option. If the linebacker covers the receiver, run. If not, throw it.

2. If Jones isn’t on the field, take a delay of game penalty and then kick the field goal.

“Kickers are head-jobs anyway,” Ryan said within earshot of Hauschka, “so you don’t want to screw them around.”

Jones showed up on the left side, which meant undrafted rookie tackle Garry Gilliam would get the throw if necessary. Gilliam, a converted tight end out of Penn State, hadn’t caught a touchdown since high school.

“I broke the huddle like, Please be on my side, please be on my side,” Gilliam says. “And then he was.”

You had to know Brad Jones was going to have a Brad Jones play at least once, somewhere in the game.  I didn't see one in the game coverage yesterday but sure enough, somebody dug one up.  Guy is a one man team-wrecking crew.

Originally Posted by DH13:

You had to know Brad Jones was going to have a Brad Jones play at least once, somewhere in the game.  I didn't see one in the game coverage yesterday but sure enough, somebody dug one up.  Guy is a one man team-wrecking crew.

Yes. But I've seen other explanations of that play that paint A.J Hawk as the culprit. Including Hawks own admission that he saw Gilliam slipping out but decided to go for Ryan.

Last edited by Va. Packer
Originally Posted by ChilliJon:

GBP is right. How Slocum didn't alert everyone to watch for a fake in that situation is staggering.

Agree the coaching staff needs to say something.  But where is the player's responsibility?  They've all been playing football for a decade or more - have they never seen a fake field goal?  Did any of them in the huddle say to keep your eyes open for a fake?  We're too quick around here to lay all the blame on the coaches.

Originally Posted by cuqui:

The morning wouldn't be complete without more Brad Jones and Shawn Slocum. This is ALL COACHING FAIL.

 

http://mmqb.si.com/2015/01/19/...ick-fake-field-goal/

 Ryan had been lobbying for the call during the week of practice, after special teams coach Brian Schneider’s staff identified the weak link in the Packers field goal block team.

Reserve linebacker Brad Jones was recklessly aggressive coming off the edge on film. He consistently darted hard to the inside in an effort to get the block, and often went to unnecessary lengths to do so. Against Dallas in their divisional game, he lined up on the left side three times and once on the right, and on one attempt tried to leap over a blocker only to get stonewalled.

So with only five minutes left in the third quarter and Seattle still trailing 16-0, Carroll gave Ryan the go-ahead to execute a fake running play specifically designed for this game. Ryan had two options:

1. Take the snap and roll out to Jones’ side with either Garry Gilliam (left side) or Luke Willson (right) as a receiving option. If the linebacker covers the receiver, run. If not, throw it.

2. If Jones isn’t on the field, take a delay of game penalty and then kick the field goal.

 

I'm a little confused (which is par for the course). Shouldn't the fact that you kept your defense on the field at least imply the possibility of a fake? There were backups in there like Sean Richardson but it was the defense. I don't believe that was standard procedure for the Packers because it was pointed out.

The problem I have with the play is it looks like House is going to run Ryan OOB short of the line to gain, Hawk should have stayed back!!!  I'm as big a homer OSU guy on this board but there is no way no way Hawk should be back next year.

I put this one all on Hawk.  It was 4th and 10 not 4th and 1.  Ryan isn't going to run the 25 yards it would take to pick up that first down without someone catching him.  Hawk had no reason to bite on that.

Originally Posted by vitaflo:

I put this one all on Hawk.  It was 4th and 10 not 4th and 1.  Ryan isn't going to run the 25 yards it would take to pick up that first down without someone catching him.  Hawk had no reason to bite on that.

In AJ's defense, he probably figured that he couldn't catch him from behind so nobody else would... 

http://www.jsonline.com/sports...945z1-289108751.html

 

"Hawk was stationed behind the FG block front for his experience, not his athleticism. His mistake — running up on fourth and 10 when the punter couldn't hurt the Packers instead of staying back on the man who could — probably was as egregious as Bostick's."

The fake FG set the stage for the downward spiral from the Packers and MM is ultimately responsible for the product on the field. The complete collapse I witnessed Sunday doesn't occur under a very good or great coach and right now I see MM as just a good coach who happens to have won a SB.

Originally Posted by michiganjoe:

The fake FG set the stage for the downward spiral from the Packers and MM is ultimately responsible for the product on the field. The complete collapse I witnessed Sunday doesn't occur under a very good or great coach and right now I see MM as just a good coach who happens to have won a SB.

Who happens to have AR as his QB.

Originally Posted by SteveLuke:

http://www.jsonline.com/sports...945z1-289108751.html

 

"Hawk was stationed behind the FG block front for his experience, not his athleticism. His mistake — running up on fourth and 10 when the punter couldn't hurt the Packers instead of staying back on the man who could — probably was as egregious as Bostick's."

"Offense, defense, special teams and coaching. All four shared almost equally in the 28-22 overtime defeat"

 

This. Some screw-ups weren't as obvious as Bostick's , Hawks etc. On that first running play after the Burnett pick, panned as being ultra conservative, Bakhtiari gets beat by Bennett on an inside move and Lacy is thrown for a 4 yard loss. The play was well blocked by everyone else and there was a hole. A significant hole.

Green Bay dinked and dunked and tried to get Lacy his 20 carries in the second half. A "target," McCarthy said.  -jsonline

MM is a fantastic planner but golly if he doesn't stick to the plan come hell or highwater. I'd love to know where Lacy was at with his targets when the Seahawks  defense was putting nine on the line in the fourth quarter with more than four minutes left.  If they get one first down we're all talking about playing the Patriots in the Superbowl.  That's not the only part of the meltdown by a long shot but damn if it ain't  true.  

 

Edit: Lacy finished with 21 carries  

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Originally Posted by Tschmack:
Hawk and Jones the dynamic duo

Add Slocum in there good grief

Pink slips for all of them

 

Originally Posted by SteveLuke:

http://www.jsonline.com/sports...945z1-289108751.html

 

"Hawk was stationed behind the FG block front for his experience, not his athleticism. His mistake — running up on fourth and 10 when the punter couldn't hurt the Packers instead of staying back on the man who could — probably was as egregious as Bostick's."


The trifecta of fail, all together in one play.

Who was HC in the 2007 NFCC game? Who never adjusted to Plaxico being covered basically by one man?

 

Anyone expecting McCarthy to change has a better chance of seeing a zebra changing its stripes.

 

No, TT isn't firing MM, they just gave him an extension. And getting to the NFCC game doesn't get someone fired anyway. He's all ours, and they will continue to win in double digits because they have AR in his prime. That is our ace in the hole, but time is wasting, IMO.

Originally Posted by GBFanForLife:

I guess we will all have to just realize that the season is over before it starts. It is just like the 80's.

Nope. Unlike the 80s there is significant talent on this squad.

 

Question is, is that talent being maximized?

 

Using the FFG as an example, some don't think it is being it is being maximized.

 

 

Brad Jones actually made a terrific special teams play on the forced fumble that gave the Packers a chance to really put some distance between them and the Hawks..

The field goal is 100% on the coaching staff…and primarily Mike McCarthy…how you don't drop two safeties and keep corners outside on that play is unbelievable…A field goal in that situation is meaningless….if you align the defense correctly on that play, Seattle is forced to call a timeout and then they bring the offense back on the field…maybe they get the first down, maybe they don't, but there was never a question about kicking a f*****n field goal.

Originally Posted by GBFanForLife:

I guess we will all have to just realize that the season is over before it starts. It is just like the 80's.

Yep, all those 1980's divsion titles, winning records,  playoff games we lost in heartbreaking fashion, those...whoops, nevermind.

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