The Invisible Man known as Ted Thompson

Herschel posted:

Bull****. Tim Cook is out front doing interviews, talking about the company status, upcoming products, or being out front when speculation is bad or good, as well as doing the shareholder presentations. It's not confidential company information, but he sure as heck doesn't hide from news, good or bad.  

Quit whining about "the media" like it's some sort of bogeyman. They serve a function. 

I missed the interview where Tim Cook went through his whole thought process for every decision on every level that he's made this year. Also it's the expectation of the CEO to be the face of the organization, Ted is not the face of the Packers. CU is right, Thompson doesn't owe the fans any explanations and he certainly is not required to publicly shoulder any blame. Just because Ron Wolf chose to do it doesn't mean Thompson has to. 

TT is the General Manager in an organization where the executive side is hands-off on the football side and has publicly said he's the man in charge. That damned well does make him the name/face of the Packers in regards to the front office and team. 

And again, what is it you think will be accomplished by him standing in front of the media? He doesn't have to do it and he shouldn't. There's nothing to say. It's just a losing streak. 

To be honest....its a bit more than that.

Which NFL GMs talk to the media during the season?

Jones and Belicheck don't count.

SFO sucks, what has Baalke said about the state of their team? I know I've read more than a few comments from Kelly.

None of them spout anything of substance.  The only time I'd expect to hear TT during the season would be if he dumped MM.  Failing that, I hope he's trying to figure out how to improve the team rather than placating part of the fan base.

Pikes Peak posted:

What would change on the field with this team (which is all that matters) if he spoke every month, week or day for that matter? 

Answer.......nothing

Yeah, but I could turn to my friends and say, 

"SEE?"!? They award Super Bowls for that.

This thread is an extra special kind of enjoyable. 

chickenboy posted:

grignon posted:

If you're not drafting at the top of the first round, you're not getting elite talent and your team will be relatively worse. Draft and develop is a concept to avoid taking players with major flaws to fill out your roster but it cannot make your team dominant.

You are correct but when you find yourself in a very nice situation like that, you use other resources like a team in the Pacific Northwest and a team in the Northeast does.

Like cheating?

I'll pass on watching Forrest Gump give a press conference anyway.  By the way, builder Ted, your chicks in the barn are hot garbage.   

People are always assuming that accountability equals loss. You have to lose what you have to be accountable. I don't think it's ever that simple. 

I don't think McCarthy is getting through to his players anymore. I think it is for that reason he should be fired. 

I saw yesterday that Murphy stepped up and started addressing the team in season, against his normal activity. It's a leadership and a PR move. He isn't giving away "state secrets"  he is manning up and addressing concerns in the absence of a GM doing it.

NFL GM's do not address the state of the team in season, unless they are firing someone. Murphy speaking is like a Kraft, or Snyder, or Davis, or Allen, or .......... addressing the fans.

Murphy did a rare interview with WTMJ radio in Milwaukee (he normally doesn’t talk during the season), and expressed support for the top football guys in the organization despite this year’s struggles.

“I do hear from a lot of fans. And I tell fans: Like them, I’m disappointed,” Murphy said, via Rob Demovsky of ESPN.com. “Certainly, the season hasn’t gone the way we had all hoped, but there’s a lot of football left to be played. And the other thing I tell people is, you’ve got to look at Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy’s track record. . . .

“We’ve been through difficult stretches before. We’ve had consistent success, and it’s hard to achieve that in the NFL, but I do sympathize with our fans. They want us to win, they want us to play better, and we’ve just got to work through a difficult patch. I’m optimistic and I’m hopeful. We’ve done it in the past and, hopefully, we can do it again.”

What he isn’t prepared to do is clean house, and he insisted that the public ownership of the team is not a detriment.

Now if that chickensh..t TT would only step up and and say nothing.

#voteofconfidence

Typically I'd agree that an owner/president (Murphy in this case) saying now is not the time to start firing people would sound like the dreaded vote of confidence, but I'm pretty sure Murphy has no balls.

#offering20millionmarketingdealtonarcissisticprickinanattempttomakehimstayretiredthenthegmfixesitbytradinghimtothejets

Herschel posted:

I saw yesterday that Murphy stepped up and started addressing the team in season, against his normal activity. It's a leadership and a PR move. He isn't giving away "state secrets"  he is manning up and addressing concerns in the absence of a GM doing it.

I guess we have different definitions of "manning up". Patronizing the spoiled fans by going on the radio and saying he "understands" is more of a political move than it is leadership. If anything he just said the exact same thing McCarthy said except in a more PC way. "We’ve had consistent success, and it’s hard to achieve that in the NFL...We’ve done it in the past..." and "I'm a highly successful coach" mean the same thing. Don't see much "manning up" or "leadership" in this, just a politician trying to sooth the butthurt of the aggressively impatient fans. 

Herschel posted:

I saw yesterday that Murphy stepped up and started addressing the team in season, against his normal activity. It's a leadership and a PR move. He isn't giving away "state secrets"  he is manning up and addressing concerns in the absence of a GM doing it.

Oh oh, the Eagles are in trouble now that leadership has spoken. Just bet my house on the Packers.

When will a ballboy man up and tell us what's really going on?

bvan posted:

 

What he isn’t prepared to do is clean house, and he insisted that the public ownership of the team is not a detriment.

A lot depends on what is meant by "cleaning house" also. I think they have some quality coaches on the team in Whitt, Perry and Trgo, ironically, but the offensive dysfunction is really puzzling with the more established tallant on that side of the ball.  That's also where the coaching turnover has been biggest also. 

Herschel posted:

A lot depends on what is meant by "cleaning house" 

They need to fire the janitors too.

Oh they will. Trust me, they will. 

Goalline is a janitor? 

Racist. ....

I enjoy camping. Tent camping. Real camping. During a week long camp excursion you can hop in the lake with a bar of soap and scrub the general and two colonels and wipe down the bunker. It's "lake clean".

My point is there are wildly varying degrees of clean. 

Sanitize clean with a spot free rinse? No. Lake Clean? Yes. That's all I'm saying.

Recently finished planning my next trip to the Boundary Waters, Aug. 2017. #cantwait #lakeclean

Biodegradable soap in your pack?

Lava soap. The variety made with gravel and insulation and transmission shavings. Camping soap. 

http://www.old-time.com/commercials/1940's/L-A-V-A.htm

Hungry5 posted:

NFL GM's do not address the state of the team in season, unless they are firing someone. Murphy speaking is like a Kraft, or Snyder, or Davis, or Allen, or .......... addressing the fans.

That's not true. I don't keep track, but I know the Giants' Jerry Reese spoke with the press a few weeks ago and he wasn't firing anyone.

Okay, 1.

RIck Spielman also has recently. It was on the radio.

Rick Spielman is a ****ing moron. 

ChilliJon posted:

My point is there are wildly varying degrees of clean. 

Sanitize clean with a spot free rinse? No. Lake Clean? Yes. That's all I'm saying.

So you don't ever wash your hands or feet?

ChilliJon posted:

I enjoy camping. Tent camping. Real camping. During a week long camp excursion you can hop in the lake with a bar of soap and scrub the general and two colonels and wipe down the bunker. It's "lake clean".

My point is there are wildly varying degrees of clean. 

Sanitize clean with a spot free rinse? No. Lake Clean? Yes. That's all I'm saying.

Lumberjack Joe and the Flapjack Twins.  

I enjoy camping. Tent camping. Real camping. During a week long camp excursion you can hop in the lake with a bar of soap and scrub the general and two colonels and wipe down the bunker. It's "lake clean".

This assumes you're on private property.  I dare you to try it at a state park. 

If you find yourself in a state park and see a guy "treading" in five feet of lake water. Just go on about your business. 

Good read from Silverstein on the potential Wolf/TT decision awaiting Murphy this offseason. While most of it has been discussed - TT's recent struggles/age and demand for Wolf - there was a factor brought up I hadn't considered. The Titletown district is perhaps the team's biggest business venture yet, and it starts opening next season. The powers that be might be less patient to wait out a downturn in play than any point in Packer history. 

http://www.packersnews.com/sto...mpson-wolf/94347888/