Supposedly, he was the regular NFL replay official. I'm curious what his name is, does anyone know? Even he blew the call.
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He wanted the refs to leave Seattle alive. Seriously. He f*cked up, though. That is certain.
quote:Originally posted by Mcpacker64:
Supposedly, he was the regular NFL replay official. I'm curious what his name is, does anyone know? Even he blew the call.
We're not Raider fans. The entire game was fukked, and the NFL and the owners are to blame in the end. Let's not single out individuals, please.
God help him and others like him.
I reckon none of them feel blessed right now.
I reckon none of them feel blessed right now.
The replay guy is not a scab according to McGinn.
@BobMcGinn
Maybe 30 sec. after Slavin's ruling, #Packer prexy M. Murphy approached NFL observer Mike Kensil. Kensil reminded him Slavin was NFL guy.
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Remember, TD was in final 2 min of half, meaning no hood for ref. Thus, replay guy Howard Slavin can rule TD or no TD. It was up to him.
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Howard Slavin works in closed box off main press box. NFL observer Mike Kensil is in open press box maybe 2 seats down from #Packers brass.
@BobMcGinn
Maybe 30 sec. after Slavin's ruling, #Packer prexy M. Murphy approached NFL observer Mike Kensil. Kensil reminded him Slavin was NFL guy.
@BobMcGinn
Remember, TD was in final 2 min of half, meaning no hood for ref. Thus, replay guy Howard Slavin can rule TD or no TD. It was up to him.
@BobMcGinn
Howard Slavin works in closed box off main press box. NFL observer Mike Kensil is in open press box maybe 2 seats down from #Packers brass.
Can't reverse a possession call...unfortunately, just an unreal bonehead call by refs
Howard. Name one football person you know by that name.
Now name a Green bay swampy suburb
Now name a Green bay swampy suburb
What possession? Tate never had possession. This is worse than the Cardinal playoff loss with Rodgers face mask getting grabbed.
I bet there will be some interesting behind the scenes talks around the NFL tomorrow.
Boris people are saying this is one of the worst calls in decades in the NFL. its on the AOL newsfeed now
We had two different calls from the officials. One signaled interception and one TD.
On review, the call on the field can only be reversed with clear evidence. What, exactly, was the call?
Assuming it was a TD call, then you need clear evidence to reverse. The replay official said he didn't have enough evidence--thus the ruling the call on the field "stands", as opposed to the call on the field being "confirmed."
That being said, other than Seahawk fan or a replacement ref, it was clear that not only did Tate not grab the ball simultaneously with Jennings, Tate's arm then came off the ball even after tried to wrestle it away from Jennings. In no way, at all, was this even a close call. It was clear that it should have been overturned.
On review, the call on the field can only be reversed with clear evidence. What, exactly, was the call?
Assuming it was a TD call, then you need clear evidence to reverse. The replay official said he didn't have enough evidence--thus the ruling the call on the field "stands", as opposed to the call on the field being "confirmed."
That being said, other than Seahawk fan or a replacement ref, it was clear that not only did Tate not grab the ball simultaneously with Jennings, Tate's arm then came off the ball even after tried to wrestle it away from Jennings. In no way, at all, was this even a close call. It was clear that it should have been overturned.
This is a call that threatens the very validity of the league. The difference between real wrestling, such as one sees in HS or college, and the WWE.
From JSO game blog:
"The official (no. 26) that called the touchdown is Lance Easley a banker from California,
that officiated high school games".
thats nice.
"The official (no. 26) that called the touchdown is Lance Easley a banker from California,
that officiated high school games".
thats nice.
quote:We had two different calls from the officials. One signaled interception and one TD.
On review, the call on the field can only be reversed with clear evidence. What, exactly, was the call?
That is what I have been thinking all night?? Did the referee make the final call that it was a TD?
Yahoo sports:
"This is Goodell's Heidi game, a forever blemish he'll never live down. The lockout may not have been his idea but it's on his watch. Someone might as well start preproduction on a documentary now, the image of those two confused refs in the corner of an end zone sure to go down in history."
There is a reason some guys ref Pop Warner, some high school, and some lower college division games. Apparently, just few can play pro football, few can also correctly ref it.
"This is Goodell's Heidi game, a forever blemish he'll never live down. The lockout may not have been his idea but it's on his watch. Someone might as well start preproduction on a documentary now, the image of those two confused refs in the corner of an end zone sure to go down in history."
There is a reason some guys ref Pop Warner, some high school, and some lower college division games. Apparently, just few can play pro football, few can also correctly ref it.
quote:The official (no. 26) that called the touchdown is Lance Easley a banker from California,
that officiated high school games".
The speed at which the high school level football is the same as the speed played at the NFL level.
Goodell is a silver-spoon entitled executive, overseeing the most destruction ever done to a professional sports league. He deserves nothing but shame for the greedy power play with the real refs.
I thought the new rule was that if there was an instant replay review they were supposed to show it on the scoreboard, no matter if it was for or against the home team? Evidently they did not show the replay in the stadium.
The normal guys will generally make 2-3 bad/questionable calls a game, these guys will make AT LEAST that many every quarter. With the normal guys, we'd bitch over stuff like that Calvin Johnson TD non-catch in Chicago a couple years ago, this call is just in a whole different level of suck. They're barely in the same galaxies of suck. It's even worse than Phil Luckett's Thanksgiving coin toss mistake and Hochuli's "inadvertent whistle" that cost the Chargers a game in Denver. Legendary bad calls (precious few of which come remotely close to what happened tonight) like those only happened once or twice a season with the regular guys, NFL fans are in for many, many more this year if these guys get to stick around for the rest of the season.
There seems to be conflicting information on what was reviewable or not. I've read in some places that if the ruling on the field in simultaneous possession, all the replay official can do is confirm the ball didn't go out of bounds, bounce, etc., but not reverse the ruling of joint possession. Doesn't make a ton of sense to me.
Regardless, McCarthy and the Packers need to do three things on this brutal flight to Seattle:
1) Get all the players off Twitter. There's no point...the entire sports world agrees with them. Troy Aikman called it a joke; even the #1 contrarian Skip Bayless agrees with them. So just stay off twitter, hopefully for the rest of the season.
2) Mike Murphy's job the next 24 hours is to leave no stone unturned to demand a league investigation and response to what happened. Reversing the outcome of a game is unprecedented, but so is a call of this nature under these circumstances. But let Murphy and the rest of the organization deal with the fallout and the league response. Coaches and players have other things to worry about.
3) Players and coaches walk off that plane with a new commitment to the season. As brutal as this loss is and as much as the consequences may still loom with playoff births and seedings, the Packers still control their own destiny. Use this as the kick in the ass to get in it gear and turn this season around.
Regardless, McCarthy and the Packers need to do three things on this brutal flight to Seattle:
1) Get all the players off Twitter. There's no point...the entire sports world agrees with them. Troy Aikman called it a joke; even the #1 contrarian Skip Bayless agrees with them. So just stay off twitter, hopefully for the rest of the season.
2) Mike Murphy's job the next 24 hours is to leave no stone unturned to demand a league investigation and response to what happened. Reversing the outcome of a game is unprecedented, but so is a call of this nature under these circumstances. But let Murphy and the rest of the organization deal with the fallout and the league response. Coaches and players have other things to worry about.
3) Players and coaches walk off that plane with a new commitment to the season. As brutal as this loss is and as much as the consequences may still loom with playoff births and seedings, the Packers still control their own destiny. Use this as the kick in the ass to get in it gear and turn this season around.
quote:Originally posted by ChilliJon:
Mike Murphy?
Apologies...it's late. Meant Mark Murphy.
quote:Howard. Name one football person you know by that name.
Howard Green? He's even got a Super Bowl ring.
I don't know about the rules and what the replay guy can call or not call (although, why even have one if he can't over-rule at any time what the call on the field is on a play in the end zone?), but the replay guy never had a chance. Think about it. If he goes against the refs on an end-of-the-game call like that, the replacement refs are shown to be the a**clowns they are. I would bet that the replay guys all were "encouraged" to back up the replacement guys at any cost. It's not a conspiracy theory, it's just the owners playing hardball with the ref union. It's the owners who want to squeeze every last nickel out of fans, and they're betting we'll eventually forget all about this.
I'm not a football official, and I don't play one on TV... but when he said "The call on the field stands...", the video I saw displayed TWO calls on the field.
Another thing I noticed on the replay -- the official who signaled to stop the clock did so VERY definitively, while the official ruling TD was very hesitant as he signaled.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dsj3Iahji4
Another thing I noticed on the replay -- the official who signaled to stop the clock did so VERY definitively, while the official ruling TD was very hesitant as he signaled.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dsj3Iahji4
quote:Originally posted by Boris:
What possession? Tate never had possession. This is worse than the Cardinal playoff loss with Rodgers face mask getting grabbed.
This is so bad it's hard to describe in words. The Packers won but were cheated out of the victory by incompetent refs, who don't belong on the field.
quote:Originally posted by trump:
From JSO game blog:
"The official (no. 26) that called the touchdown is Lance Easley a banker from California,
that officiated high school games".
thats nice.
Lance Easley needs to be fired today. He is a disgrace. I hope he was just intimidated by the fans and not just some creep throwing the game.
quote:Originally posted by ShebPackFan:quote:We had two different calls from the officials. One signaled interception and one TD.
On review, the call on the field can only be reversed with clear evidence. What, exactly, was the call?
That is what I have been thinking all night?? Did the referee make the final call that it was a TD?
Yes the ref made the final call. He is a complete idiot.
quote:Originally posted by Rockin' Robin:
There seems to be conflicting information on what was reviewable or not. I've read in some places that if the ruling on the field in simultaneous possession, all the replay official can do is confirm the ball didn't go out of bounds, bounce, etc., but not reverse the ruling of joint possession. Doesn't make a ton of sense to me.
Regardless, McCarthy and the Packers need to do three things on this brutal flight to Seattle:
1) Get all the players off Twitter. There's no point...the entire sports world agrees with them. Troy Aikman called it a joke; even the #1 contrarian Skip Bayless agrees with them. So just stay off twitter, hopefully for the rest of the season.
2) Mike Murphy's job the next 24 hours is to leave no stone unturned to demand a league investigation and response to what happened. Reversing the outcome of a game is unprecedented, but so is a call of this nature under these circumstances. But let Murphy and the rest of the organization deal with the fallout and the league response. Coaches and players have other things to worry about.
3) Players and coaches walk off that plane with a new commitment to the season. As brutal as this loss is and as much as the consequences may still loom with playoff births and seedings, the Packers still control their own destiny. Use this as the kick in the ass to get in it gear and turn this season around.
#4.....get some freakin blockers.....#12 will never make it at this pace.