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Originally Posted by Goalline:
Originally Posted by MichiganPacker:

There is something up with Dekker. He sat out the last 4-5 minutes. 

To be fair, he has a bad ankle.

Good point. Maybe it's worse than has been revealed. 

 

The expectations after the Lebron James camp were high. There are stretches - like the beginning of one of the games in the Bahamas were he looks like a lottery pick, but they seem to last for about 3-4 minutes and then he disappears. 

You can look this two ways. The most positive is that one of the best five teams in the country, with several future NBA players, shot lights out for the entire game, Wisconsin got next to nothing from Hayes, Dekker, and Koenig and yet the Badgers were never really out of it until the last three minutes.

 

The biggest concern is that the Badgers struggled to contain quick guards on dribble penetration. That was the problem for that stretch last January when even Indiana beat them. Gasser has seemed to struggle this year on defense. Don't get me wrong, he's still good, but we are not used to see opposing guards go off like this against the Badgers. Sykes from UWGB did the same thing to them.

Originally Posted by Pakrz:
Originally Posted by Goalline:

I do think we have the better coach too.

 

Bo Ryan is the best coach in America in terms of developing lower level D1 recruits into good to great college players - Kaminsky, Jackson, Wilkinson, Berggren, Tucker, Tayler, Leuer, Hughes, etc. It's a long list.

 

I know the sample size is low, but the two five star recruits he's had have been decent, but not stars (Butch and Dekker). Maybe guys that were used to be the focus of their entire teams in high school don't adjust well to the Wisconsin system? Dekker puzzles me the most, because he should be the ideal player for this system - a big guy that can handle the ball, shoot the 3, run the floor, and post-up. Maybe the ankle is still bothering him, but he play passively during long stretches last year as well.

 

Wisconsin is likely the best team in American that doesn't have any one and done players.

 

Purely for talent reasons, it would be nice to get a guy like that once in a while, but I think I'd rather cheer for a team of players that actually major in something other than staying eligible for a year.

 

I think Coach K probably runs a clean program, but I doubt Okafor is spending a lot of time studying. As for Kentucky, based on Calipari's track record, they are probably cutting more than a few corners.


Diamond Stone will be interesting. I'm not sure what to hope for there.

I'm pretty sure everybody knows I'm a big Arizona fan.  They get their fair share of one-and-dones and 5 star recruits.  I can tell you from following that program closely that some of the one-and-dones stay with their academics for the first part of the year and then stop going to classes all together.  Losing their eligibility doesn't catch up with them until the season is over.  Same goes for the upper classman that plan to leave after their 2nd or 3rd season.  They stop going to class and train for the NBA draft or go to NBA workouts.  Last season, Aaron Gordon and Nick Johnson spent most of their time traveling around trying out for one team or another.  There's no way they kept up with their classes.

 

It's great to get the 5 star players... It makes for some exciting basketball.  Stanley Johnson is the next superstar to come out of Arizona but he'll never see his sophomore season.  

 

A lot can be said for the 4 star guys that stay at the university for four years.  It's what the Badger fans are currently experiencing with a stellar Badger team.  What you end up having is a group of men playing against a group of kids... more talented kids, but kids none the less.  Not to mention some of the 5 stars tend showcase their individual talents rather than playing team basketball.  

 

As for Diamond Stone, I've heard he's heading to UConn.  

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