antooo posted:Yup, InflateGate re-inflated.
Next step for Lying Tom is to ask for the Appeals Court to rehear the case with a full panel of justices or head to the Supreme Court.
Oh frabjous day, callooh callay!
So if it goes to the Supreme Court and ends up in a 4-4 deadlock, which decision is enforced?
If it goes to the SC, on the day the case is heard, only 3 will be attendance - 3 Patriot fans. The others will get double pay to not show up. How do you think it will go?
In a deadlock, the ruling reverts back to the most recent, lower court, so the suspension would be upheld.
The SC is not going to take the case, so don't worry about it.
And somehow, some way, you know this isn't the end. But for now, it'll be hilarious to watch Billy boy and co. bitch/moan as the draft ensues. I'm sure Kraft is drafting his open letter to Rog whining about what a witch hunt this all is plus some gem items about activist judges.
I don't think it hurts NE much in the first 4 anyway. Keeps Brady healthy an extra 4 weeks too if his age starts cracking.
I suppose Tommy Boy could go, hat in hand, and ask the Commisioner if he could please see fit to reduce his suspension to two games.
<--- The Commish'
Herschel posted:In a deadlock, the ruling reverts back to the most recent, lower court, so the suspension would be upheld.
Nerd!
Probably stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
"Oh frabjous day, callooh callay!"
It certainly makes me all mimsey.
Federal appeal court rejected Tom Brady's appeal; Brady's four-game suspension stands
Yes he can. And probably will.
Good explainer here: http://www.si.com/nfl/2016/07/...appeal-supreme-court
I think Brady knowingly cheated.
i also think 4 games is crazy for under inflated footballs. Spying on practices was way worse.
Methinks the SCOTUS has a few more pressing issues to deal with than to consider if Brady deflates his balls. Brady may try, but 98% certain that appeal would be rejected promptly. The SCOTUS accepts very, very few cases as it is (read somewhere like 1% of cases presented) and only those with constitutional consequences. Sit your 4 weeks and stew Brady.
F**K Mr. HGH
Jeezus, this is beyond stoooopid now
Fedya posted:Can he appeal to the Supreme Court?
Yes, and they will refuse cert.
There was zero chance that the 2nd Circuit would grant an en banc hearing, same odds with SCOTUS granting cert.
El-Ka-Bong posted:I think Brady knowingly cheated.
i also think 4 games is crazy for under inflated footballs. Spying on practices was way worse.
4 games for slightly underinflating balls.
2 games for cold cocking your wife and dragging her out of an elevator (Ray Rice)
It's sad to think that Brady would have gotten less of a suspension had he assaulted Giselle rather than this gamesmanship (which is all this really was). It's the equivalent of letting the grass on the field grow longer or shorter depending on your opponent.
Once again, I salute all New England-area fans.
I agree that the whole episode has gone on way too long, to the point of being absurd.
Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of people.
MichiganPacker posted:El-Ka-Bong posted:I think Brady knowingly cheated.
i also think 4 games is crazy for under inflated footballs. Spying on practices was way worse.
4 games for slightly underinflating balls.
2 games for cold cocking your wife and dragging her out of an elevator (Ray Rice)
It's sad to think that Brady would have gotten less of a suspension had he assaulted Giselle rather than this gamesmanship (which is all this really was). It's the equivalent of letting the grass on the field grow longer or shorter depending on your opponent.
Disagree here. While no one should ever hit a wife/girl friend or any woman. What Ray Rice did had no effect on a game. What Brady did may have well affected the outcome of an important game. Add in the previous misdeeds of the Pats and it is easy to see why Brady got hammered, and rightly so.
Ray Rice got more punishment from Roger Goodell than he did from the legal system.
I don't think the 4 games was for (just) the under-inflated balls.
Good point
The fact this was being pushed to SCOTUS should result in the Patriots organization being docked 1st round picks and Brady suspended for a year for wasting SCOTUS and the American people's time.
I didn't even give a **** before but **** that self important bull****.
ammo posted:Disagree here. While no one should ever hit a wife/girl friend or any woman. What Ray Rice did had no effect on a game. What Brady did may have well affected the outcome of an important game. Add in the previous misdeeds of the Pats and it is easy to see why Brady got hammered, and rightly so.
I think if you go back and put every important game in league history under a microscope you will find things more severe than Tom's deflated balls. Is it any more egregious than players using stickum for years before it was banned? Is it worse than ARod saying he over inflates the balls because he throws it better that way? It's just crap that goes on and people only care in this instance because they love to hate the Patriots. Tom shouldn't be punished equally or more severely than PED users or off-field offenders who damage the credibility of the league. We laugh now about guys using stickum back in the day, but how many game winning TD's or INT's were caught because that player had an extra advantage?
Henry posted:The fact this was being pushed to SCOTUS should result in the Patriots organization being docked 1st round picks and Brady suspended for a year for wasting SCOTUS and the American people's time.
I didn't even give a **** before but **** that self important bull****.
I enjoy your invective filled rants Henry, I always read them carefully to make sure I know where to insert "****" and when to put in "****" to properly maintain original intent. 
But GD, back in the day of stickum, everyone used it so all receivers had the same advantage just like all receivers today use the gloves they do -- and they all benefit. In Brady's case, only Brady (and his RBs for ease of holding onto the ball) benefited. That skews the game. I don't care if he underinflates or if ARod overinflates, but if you want to make it fair then let everyone choose which they prefer. Otherwise, it's one player/team having an advantage.
That's exactly my point. Tom Brady did not think up this under-inflated ball scheme, my guess is that this practice is as common as stickum was. Also a soft ball makes it easier to throw, catch and hold on to for the offense, but it also makes it easier for the defense to hold and catch. We know at least one other QB manipulates the footballs and there doesn't seem to be an issue with Packer fans.
I personally am ****ing outraged by ball manipulation. It should be happening more often.
How did you know I had my annual physical today?
Did they recommend Performance Enhancing Drugs?
I don't want to be the one to tell him they don't do "that" test anymore.
"Using the whole fist doc???"
Hungry5 posted:How did you know I had my annual physical today?
oh.... "annual" physical....carry-on....
Over inflated balls were mentioned. They are harder to catch then regulation or under inflated balls. This actually might be one of the reasons why GB receivers have dropped so many with AR throwing to them. And if they are over inflated and it is cold out, that makes it harder yet.
Brady's balls are under-inflated but his ego is over-inflated. I hope SCOTUS laughs it out of chambers. Just serve the suspension for pete's sake and let's all move on...
So Brady drops his case but the NFLPA may continue. Just sit down Tom and tell the Un ion to do the same.
You know why you never hear about under-inflated balls in baseball?
Cause the game has a tradition of integrity, thats why.
According to the St. Louis Cardinals that is.
antooo posted:Henry posted:The fact this was being pushed to SCOTUS should result in the Patriots organization being docked 1st round picks and Brady suspended for a year for wasting SCOTUS and the American people's time.
I didn't even give a **** before but **** that self important bull****.
I enjoy your invective filled rants Henry, I always read them carefully to make sure I know where to insert "****" and when to put in "****" to properly maintain original intent.
x4 Wheel of Fortune.
Cavetoad posted:well crap.
I stopped in for funny gifs.
You get nothing! Even the gifs are slow this time of year. Stupid July.
El-Ka-Bong posted:You know why you never hear about under-inflated balls in baseball?
Cause the game has a tradition of integrity, thats why.
Billy B.
Once again the media proves that they really are as stupid as most coaches think they are
If Jimmy G goes 4-0 with 17 TDs and 1 pick the pressers ahead of week 5 are going to be incredible.
Tom Brady cuts thumb with scissors on throwing hand, does not play vs. Bears https://t.co/2GAJ6ocEXA pic.twitter.com/XrwzE5EMcL
— Around The NFL (@AroundTheNFL) August 19, 2016
Cry for help?
With Gazelle in Rio, he's home alone with the kids....probably showing the urchins how to cut out those paper dolls that connect together. What a dad!
Trying to pry the SIM card out of his old phone.
he didn't realize the double headed fisting anal dildo had fingernails
Watch Preacher and see one of the coolest shows since BB
Apparently had an accident trying to "prick" his Goodell voodoo doll.
SanDiegoPackFan posted:With Gazelle in Rio, he's home alone with the kids....probably showing the urchins how to cut out those paper dolls that connect together. What a dad!
Probably just needs something LESS complex to do - like analyzing NFL defenses and throwing balls into tight spaces.
Those needles on air pumps can be pretty sharp some times.
For all those who say we should be doing things "the Patriot way" - and I know a few, I have 2 comments: 1) GB players are wondering how to replicate some of the things the Patriots do - cutting hand with a scissors would be one. 2) As it pertains to cheating - I can't say the jury is still out on Matthews and Peppers when it isn't formed yet - but should they be found innocent we can say we tried but it doesn't work.
After watching punt returners on both teams battle the sun in Jax I didn't get why Mike didn't ask Crosby to launch a short mortar on the kickoff immediately after Adams TD. :13 seconds before half. Jax isn't trying anything after the kick is covered. Thought it worth a shot.
If you got a kicker with a big enough leg, you may even want to target the 15 yard line. Could get a turnover out of it as coverage will be there about the same time.
We had to break the news of the Patriots’ loss to Ben Affleck yesterday. pic.twitter.com/CUeZLPMXKu
— SI Extra Mustard (@SI_ExtraMustard) October 3, 2016
ex-Bears TE Martellus Bennett is a real wordsmith:
He has a calledge edmucation.
Bordering on geenyous.
This made me LOL this morning:
New England’s rough offseason continues... pic.twitter.com/rKnaSFo2hj
— NFL Memes (@NFL_Memes) June 24, 2018
packerboi posted:This made me LOL this morning:
New England’s rough offseason continues... pic.twitter.com/rKnaSFo2hj
— NFL Memes (@NFL_Memes) June 24, 2018
So your saying we will have "Ref Gate" next? It is probably all in BB's new book "How The Refs Handed Us the SB - On Multiple Occasions". We know they have an owner with money to burn.
The Steelers come to mind when I think of refs giving out SB wins. Both their victories over Seattle and Arizona had some very favorable calls.
😄😂😁😆
Hahahahahahahahahah
You like dat?!?!
Did you know....
The Patriots have been favored in 67 straight games in the playoffs.
Currently the Chiefs are favored by 3. If that line doesn't move by Sunday, it will be the first time the Pats take the field as a legit betting underdog in the playoffs.
One of the more mind blowing stats is that NE has played in the AFCCG 13 of the last 18 years. I can't think of any similar stats that come close to matching that when it comes to team success. They're also 10-4 in those games...= they've played in 10 SB's since 85.
I used to despise NE, BB and TB and always had the "but" or * tied to their history. Then I just gave up and relented at what a run they've had. Now I'm just really sick of seeing them in January. They've become a cliché.
Brainwashed Boris posted:Did you know....
The Patriots have been favored in 67 straight games in the playoffs.
Currently the Chiefs are favored by 3. If that line doesn't move by Sunday, it will be the first time the Pats take the field as a legit betting underdog in the playoffs.
Do you mean 67 straight games “including” the playoffs? I don’t think the Patriots have played 67 playoff games.
Yes. Including.
"the first time since Sept. 20, 2015 that the Patriots have been installed as an underdog with Tom Brady at quarterback."
That's a long friggin time. Wonder if that 3 point spread holds before kickoff? It's Tuesday & neither line has moved at all. Money spread out so far.
Rusty posted:ex-Bears TE Martellus Bennett is a real wordsmith:
I think I lost 30 IQ points just reading (well trying to read and understand) what Bennett was saying.
The teams in their division suck and in general the AFC sucks
GBFanForLife posted:The teams in their division suck and in general the AFC sucks
Absolutely true. Jets, Fins and Bill's are an automatic 6 wins for Pat's each year.
So they beat who they are supposed to beat and most others.....is this bad?
Brainwashed Boris posted:That's a long friggin time. Wonder if that 3 point spread holds before kickoff? It's Tuesday & neither line has moved at all. Money spread out so far.
Dicey weather and possible teens predicted for KC on Sunday. I would think that favors NE.
In the playoffs. Look at the QBs and then the coaches. Check both boxes for one team you stop looking.
Theres a reason Brady and BB have been sports safest bet after January 1 the past 18 years.
DH13 posted:Brainwashed Boris posted:That's a long friggin time. Wonder if that 3 point spread holds before kickoff? It's Tuesday & neither line has moved at all. Money spread out so far.
Dicey weather and possible teens predicted for KC on Sunday. I would think that favors NE.
I dunno, sloppy weather might benefit NE but methinks cold weather should benefit the youngsters. When I was Mahomes age, cold temps never bothered me. I realize that Brady has plenty of experience playing in cold weather, but the cold gets old quick when you get older.
We saw that with Bert towards the end of his career.
Everyone knows the AFCE has been dominated by the Cheatriots during the BB/TB era. It's also true the perpetual suck of the Bills, Jets, and Dolphins contributes just as much as any 'dominance' by the Cheats.
The stink, to me, is that it gets them a head up on playoff seeding and HFA.
A division winner always trumps a wild card and gets a home game in the first round at the least.
Not exactly fair to the rest of the conference. And I'm sure Kraft cries all the way to the bank....
bdplant posted:DH13 posted:Brainwashed Boris posted:That's a long friggin time. Wonder if that 3 point spread holds before kickoff? It's Tuesday & neither line has moved at all. Money spread out so far.
Dicey weather and possible teens predicted for KC on Sunday. I would think that favors NE.
I dunno, sloppy weather might benefit NE but methinks cold weather should benefit the youngsters. When I was Mahomes age, cold temps never bothered me. I realize that Brady has plenty of experience playing in cold weather, but the cold gets old quick when you get older.
We saw that with Bert towards the end of his career.
I was thinking more the way their offenses play. KC can run it but they make hay with the pass. NE can do both (even if short passing game to White). And do you honestly think cold weather is going to effect a BB team? KC's hope is NE continues to struggle on the road.
RochNyFan posted:GBFanForLife posted:The teams in their division suck and in general the AFC sucks
Absolutely true. Jets, Fins and Bill's are an automatic 6 wins for Pat's each year.
And honestly what other team has been consistently good in the AFC during this Patriots run? Probably the only team I can think of is the Steelers besides that the AFC honestly has been typically pretty mediocre. But that being said they still find a way to win the Super Bowl.
I am no fan of that team but I do have to marvel at how they do it.
If you really are not stressed to win your division and then conference you should win the Super Bowl every year.
IND w/Manning provided a few interruptions to NE's run since 2001.
My favorite NFL front office/coaching paradigm versus my favorite college football program: New England versus Texas Tech. Hard to say, but New England has closely copied Texas Tech in all offensive phases for a very long time, and KC has their QB, but that's about it.
Timmy! posted:Everyone knows the AFCE has been dominated by the Cheatriots during the BB/TB era. It's also true the perpetual suck of the Bills, Jets, and Dolphins contributes just as much as any 'dominance' by the Cheats.
The stink, to me, is that it gets them a head up on playoff seeding and HFA.
A division winner always trumps a wild card and gets a home game in the first round at the least.
Not exactly fair to the rest of the conference. And I'm sure Kraft cries all the way to the bank....
Sounds like the "McVince is as great as Belichek" argument.
As far as this game, sloppy weather benefits the Pats as defenses have to react and the Pats always properly game plan for the conditions and opponent. If it's just cold, KC is in this game.
What does Mcvince have to do with Timmy's post?
Bob Kraft arrested for solicitation of prostitution.
Lmao. This is so fitting for that organization.
BREAKING: Police: New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft being charged in months-long human trafficking and prostitution investigation in Florida. pic.twitter.com/I9YFYjwchg
— MSNBC (@MSNBC) February 22, 2019
I assume he will be suspended for 4 games
Pikes Peak posted:Down goes Bob Kraft
He was the prostitute?
Any mention of deflated balls in this story?
El-Ka-Bong posted:BREAKING: Police: New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft being charged in months-long human trafficking and prostitution investigation in Florida. pic.twitter.com/I9YFYjwchg
— MSNBC (@MSNBC) February 22, 2019I assume he will be suspended for 4 games
Typically, a charge of soliciting results in a pre trial diversion program where the defendant attends a class on the hazards of prostitution. After which the charge is usually dropped.