The Tag and Jennings

Tag and trade. Has to be, they're not paying him 10 mil with 3 other stud WRs on the roster. And my guess is that Jennings knew this all along, which is why he sold his house. Some speculated that he might re-sign with the Pack if the market wasn't good, but I wonder if they were up-front and told him this was their plan. Just speculation though.

I'll believe it when it happens.

Ted will be "still considering" using the tag right up until the deadline when he doesn't.

Think he's worth a third? He got a second for Corey Williams....

He's worth a 1st rounder. But I'll settle for a 2nd rounder.

Cincinnati baby....Jennings & AJ Green. LOOKOUT!!

Tag and trade would make a lot of sense. They could even have some deals already lined up. There is speculation that the 9ers already have a deal for Alex Smith, just waiting for the new year to make it official.

It really isn't Thompson's MO to do a tag and trade is it? It seems to me if its tag him, it's only to keep him.

GJ has to start thinking about the legacy factor. If he signs a 5 year, $75M deal somewhere, its. Good bet he won't see half of that. Some back-loaded deal with Washington will just leave him in he place all these other veterans are- looking for work in a few years as he enters the last couple years of his career. Do you want to be Randy Moss? Or do you want to be Donald Driver?

And that's not mentioning the Aaron Rodgers factor, where if you play the next 5 years in this offense you might have HOF numbers. He's at 6537 yards, 53 TDs right now. Stay healthy and play in GB, he'd easily be approaching 10K and 100 TDs. And he might have a couple/few rings in his collection, too.

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Originally posted by Hungry5:
Tag and trade would make a lot of sense. They could even have some deals already lined up. There is speculation that the 9ers already have a deal for Alex Smith, just waiting for the new year to make it official.

Agree. As others posted, it doesn't make sense to retain Jennings at that salary and at 30 with his injury history.

So if it happens, GB must have a trade partner.

Seattle isn't far fetched IMO. With Schneider knowing Jennings, Russell Favre more then happy to get him as another weapon, it's not a divisional opponent he'd go to, and the Packers won't face the Hags in the regular season.

Can't see Ted trading him in the conference. Miami is the most likely because they have a lot of extra picks. I wouldn't rule out New Emgland either.

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And that's not mentioning the Aaron Rodgers factor, where if you play the next 5 years in this offense you might have HOF numbers. He's at 6537 yards, 53 TDs right now. Stay healthy and play in GB, he'd easily be approaching 10K and 100 TDs

Problem with that though is Rodgers has much better talent at WR around him now then Driver had with Favre. There were years where Driver was clearly Favre's best option and therefore put up large receiving numbers.

With Jennings at 30 with Randall Cobb, Jones, and Nelson all being younger then him I just don't know if there would be seasons where even if he could stay healthy he would be able to put up gawdy numbers. And I don't know if Jennings frankly gives a rip about staying with one team and legacy meaning more then $$ would.

Driver? Yes. But one more then one occasion Jennings gave the vibe this season he wasn't all that thrilled with GB.

Sounds like Uncle Ted is ringing the dinner bell and seeing who shows up.

Miami is pushing for Wallace. Four years younger than Jennings, they would spend the big bucks on him rather than Jennings.

The sooner TT rids the locker room of Finley and keeps a guy like Jennings, the sooner the Packers will be hoisting another Lombardi.

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Problem with that though is Rodgers has much better talent at WR around him now then Driver had with Favre. There were years where Driver was clearly Favre's best option and therefore put up large receiving numbers.

But that's just it- Driver never put up big receiving numbers. Consistent, yes. Never gaudy- he had three 1200 yard seasons in his prime from 04-06, ages 29-31. And remember- Driver was 24 when was drafted, but it wasn't unit he was 27 when was a primary receiver. His last 1000 yard season was when he was 34, the last of 6 consecutive. Thn he hit the wall.

So I am not as scared of 30+ as you seem to be. The key here is the number. I propose the Packers can pay him now for future production and still get several prime years. Cobb to me is not as good in that slot as Jennings, and that's a big component of their success. Plus I view the team needing to keep the primary 4 WRs they have had in the system. Injuries are a part of the game. Jennings is to me still their best WR. Again it all comes down to the number, but you try to convince him that his legacy and being a part of his team's championship era are enough to take a reasonable deal. The FA waters are not going to be that warm anyway...

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Cobb to me is not as good in that slot as Jennings

You're right. He's better than Jennings. I watched him get double & triple covered in the 2nd half of the season & still come down with the pass. However when Jennings was in there, the offense was more explosive.

To me, this feels like the Packers doing Jennings (or his agent) a favor. His free agent value can't have been helped by his (almost) former team showing no interest in him. By making it sound like they think Jennings is worth $10 million, they're throwing him a bone.

Or it could be that Thompson was being his usual cryptic self by saying he hasn't ruled anything out and Wilde took him a bit too seriously.

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Originally posted by Music City:
It really isn't Thompson's MO to do a tag and trade is it?

He's done it before. What else is required to make it an MO?

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Originally posted by Grave Digger:
Can't see Ted trading him in the conference. Miami is the most likely because they have a lot of extra picks. I wouldn't rule out New Emgland either.

New England doesn't have many picks to work with this year.

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Originally posted by Music City:
So I am not as scared of 30+ as you seem to be.

Where did I ever say scared? Way to whiff on a conclusion you missed badly on.

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Cobb to me is not as good in that slot as Jennings

Wrong again. The current version of both WR's especially with Cobb entering his 3rd year gives the advantage to Cobb. He's the younger, more althetic, faster, healthier version of Jennings. And he more then likely won't be playing ST's. More energy. More use of him as a WR.

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But you try to convince him that his legacy and being a part of his team's championship era are enough to take a reasonable deal. The FA waters are not going to be that warm anyway...

And what makes you think GB hasn't already presented that to him a long time ago? As I said before, I just sense that doesn't matter to Jennings nearly as much as it did to Driver. He's already won a Super Bowl here. It's his last chance at a big contract. And he's not giving GB a home discount. If he was wanting to remain a Packer, was all about his "legacy" this thread wouldn't exist and we'd have no reason to have this conversation. He would have been extended already.

Either he goes to FA and signs somewhere else (IMO most likely). He's tagged and traded (less likely). Or he comes back and signs ALA James Jones at a much lower contract because he couldn't get anything better (least likely).

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Originally posted by Herschel:
New England doesn't have many picks to work with this year.

When has that ever stopped Billy B from getting what he wants, especially if it means acquiring a player to keep him from going to a division rival (ala signing Wes Welker away from Miami). They are in desperate need of WRs also.

True, but I wouldn't be surprised to see BB take Conner Vernon to replace Welker. The kid's not that fast but he's perfect for that slot possession spot as he's saavy, quick and has amazing hands.

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Originally posted by packerboi:

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Originally posted by Music City:
So I am not as scared of 30+ as you seem to be.

Where did I ever say scared? Way to whiff on a conclusion you missed badly on.

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Cobb to me is not as good in that slot as Jennings

Wrong again. The current version of both WR's especially with Cobb entering his 3rd year gives the advantage to Cobb. He's the younger, more althetic, faster, healthier version of Jennings. And he more then likely won't be playing ST's. More energy. More use of him as a WR.

You don't play Mod on here. That positions been filled.

But you say you don't mention his age and then mention his age? His age is certainly part of the discussion- maybe i incorrectly attributed it to ou, but it is at least part of the discussion, agreed? And while Jennings has been injured of late, I don't recall anyone being concerned about his speed. He's better in the slot when he's in there than Cobb. Better route running, better hands, better recognition. Cobb may get there, but he doesn't have Jennings' savvy in the slot- and that's what I am talking about. Cobb is faster, but perhaps only magically so. Right now Jennings is the better professional WR.

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And what makes you think GB hasn't already presented that to him a long time ago? As I said before, I just sense that doesn't matter to Jennings nearly as much as it did to Driver. He's already won a Super Bowl here. It's his last chance at a big contract. And he's not giving GB a home discount. If he was wanting to remain a Packer, was all about his "legacy" this thread wouldn't exist and we'd have no reason to have this conversation. He would have been extended already.

We don't know this, certainly. It's just part of the discussion here. But his goes back to me point- he can sign that bit deal and get cut 3 years later leaving $20M on the table. That's part of the legacy issue I am talking about. Jennings moving out of GB may have more to do with getting to warmer climes with lower taxes- somethIng many of us would probably consider, especially with millions coming soon. Hell, I think about it now and I won't see any millions.

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Either he goes to FA and signs somewhere else (IMO most likely). He's tagged and traded (less likely). Or he comes back and signs ALA James Jones at a much lower contract because he couldn't get anything better (least likely).

Obviously these are his choices. To me the Packers need to presently modes deal with more guaranteed $$$, and this is something they can afford to do. I would rather have Jennings in the last of his prime years than Finley in all of his.

We'll certainly know soon enough which Thompson prefers. The fact that he mentioned still being open to it recently says something about what the guy who never says anything about anything is thinking.

Very skeptical that Jennings will be tagged. Greg's age is less of an issue than is his recent injury history. It could be just a fluke or it could be a sign he's breaking down and that's a risk I wouldn't want to take.

Would be great if we could get a pick for him

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Originally posted by Orlando Wolf:
The sooner TT rids the locker room of Finley and keeps a guy like Jennings, the sooner the Packers will be hoisting another Lombardi.

Good to know that all that fretting about the defensive personnel is unfounded -- all we need to do is cut Finley and sign Jennings to be Super Bowl champs again.

I'm guessing this is smokescreen to generate some sort of sign and trade deal. Good for TT...that's exactly what he should do. But I'd be shocked if Jennings was in GB to start the season. Just too much $ when there are other more pressing needs and huge $ to shell out to extend your offensive and defensive MVPs.

Finley is a bit more of a dilemma, but I'd cut bait. We're anchored by those incredible performances he put up at the end of 2009 and start of 2010 when he seemed unstoppable. But he's had two years now since that injury in 2010 and I just don't see a difference maker anymore. Even forgetting the drops, he's just not getting enough separation that made him a nightmare matchup.

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Originally posted by Ryan Grant:
Would be great if we could get a pick for him

There will be a compensatory pick.



In other news, Philbin not a fan?.

They may just tender him for the round he was selected in, and if someone matches, the Packers get a 2nd automatically. Would seem a cheaper route than franchising him.

He's not an RFA though.

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Originally posted by Grave Digger:
He's not an RFA though.

Derp...I just realized that and was going to delete my post.

Busted.

This is my opinion ...

IMO, neither jennings nor Yotto are in Green Bay in august ... but if he keeps yotto, I believe he takes 1 of the top TE's as an insurance policy/future.

I got TT taking Ertz when he trades down.

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Originally posted by Hungry5:

In other news, Philbin not a fan?.

Maybe Philbin and the Dolphins are playing the same sort of game some think TT is playing.

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Originally posted by trump:
This is my opinion ...

IMO, neither jennings nor Yotto are in Green Bay in august ... but if he keeps yotto, I believe he takes 1 of the top TE's as an insurance policy/future.

I got TT taking Ertz when he trades down.

I think they will give Finley one more year and Jennings is gone. I believe Jones and Jordy are both up at the end of next year so it really doesn't make sense to pay Jennings as much as I like him as a receiver.

There's a good chance Finley plays his butt off this season and has a great year. It's a contract year and if he were an FA today, he wouldn't get a great deal. He has financial motivations to have a great year and I'm cautiously optimistic he will. My expectations aren't sky high, but it's in his best interest to shut his mouth and give 100%...his agent may be a big dum dum, but even he has to see that.

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Originally posted by Grave Digger:
There's a good chance Finley plays his butt off this season and has a great year. It's a contract year and if he were an FA today, he wouldn't get a great deal. He has financial motivations to have a great year and I'm cautiously optimistic he will. My expectations aren't sky high, but it's in his best interest to shut his mouth and give 100%...his agent may be a big dum dum, but even he has to see that.

I hear you, but isn't that the same situation he was in going into the 2011 season? I believe that was his final season under his first contract, he was coming off injury, and had plenty of financial motivation to prove his worth to a team that won the Super Bowl without him. Yet he still ran his mouth and had a bunch of drops.

I've been a big Finley fan over the past few years and thought he was a critical part of the offense. But I'm rapidly changing my opinion. Whether it's injuries or maturity, he's just not the same player that was dynamite at the end of 2009. Seems like every pass to him is heavily contested in traffic -- he's not getting the separation he once got.

Today is the day.

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Greg Jennings, Green Bay Packers wide receiver: Ian Rapoport of NFL Network has reported that the Packers are considering using the tag on Jennings, but it would still be a surprise.

there is an arrigoesque report

And the Pack elected to not franchise him, as expected

I was right!