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Tdog posted:
pablopackerfan posted:

Thiefs v Chiefs is funny. but I just don't understand why people STILL think the Patriots are cheaters. Nothing ever proved. All accusations debunked.  Most successful NFL org in last 20 years, etc.   

debunked when baddell destroyed the tapes?  is that what you mean?

Not really. I mean like they have 5 Supper Bowls and the highest winning percentage by far in the last 20 years.  and the Packers are a distant second with Win% and only 1 Supper.  The reason is better coaching and GM, not cheating. If it is cheating then you're cheering for the WWF.

pablopackerfan posted:
Henry posted:
pablopackerfan posted:
Henry posted:

They lost draft picks.

so? the commish is the xcpert?  have you read the reports by the investigators?  not a slam dunk point there H

I don't care.  Bebunked.  I think that's like twerking.

Good. if you don't care, stop believing stupid **** as if it's a fact.  I bet you love that pics of gators in Miami after Irma.

Are you a wizard? 

pablopackerfan posted:
Tdog posted:
pablopackerfan posted:

Thiefs v Chiefs is funny. but I just don't understand why people STILL think the Patriots are cheaters. Nothing ever proved. All accusations debunked.  Most successful NFL org in last 20 years, etc.   

debunked when baddell destroyed the tapes?  is that what you mean?

Not really. I mean like they have 5 Supper Bowls and the highest winning percentage by far in the last 20 years.  and the Packers are a distant second with Win% and only 1 Supper.  The reason is better coaching and GM, not cheating. If it is cheating then you're cheering for the WWF.

edit:  on second thought, I really don't care

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Hungry5 posted:

It's not cheating if you don't get caught. If you're not cheating, you're not trying.

Bull****.  Wrong.  A million times wrong.  You are completely mixing up the word "sport" with this post.

I'd be willing to bet Brady for one would never risk getting smeared like that again.  He almost ruined his legacy with that exact kind of thinking.  So not worth it.  Ask a guy like Lance Armstrong what he thinks.  His entire existence eradicated with crap thinking like that.

Wait, is this post sarcasm or do you really think this?  

Just about everyone has the Patriots playing some scrub NFC team in the SB.  So somehow they will get there - although the method may not be obvious at first.  With Brady being 40, Gronk with 4 back surgeries, and Edelman out - maybe it is all catching up with them.  Either way, if GB is that scrub NFC team, maybe we could kill two birds with one stone - desecrate the Viking stadium & end the Patriot dynasty.  A real cause for celebration.  

The Pats injury and depth situation has been tenuous over the last few years, and it finally caught up to them. 
Porous OL + old QB = bad results. Add WR/TE injury and no apparent (quality) depth, only compounds the problem. Weak rushing dooms the offense.
They will have to depend on defense to keep games close enough to let ol' Tommy boy find some magic, and has to at least be a possibility given their divisional competition, but if they can't stop Alex Smith.....


Can't say the empire may be crumbling yet, but they're not going to last forever...

Teams just do not go into New England and work them over like KC did.  What I observed was the Chiefs just seemed to have a lot more speed and athleticism and the Pats could simply not match them.  They looked old and slow and played a step behind all evening. 

If the Chiefs can get that type of performance more consistently out of the QB position they are a real threat to win it all.   Losing Berry is a major blow but I was very impressed with their performance. 

I never thought New England was automatic entry for the Superb Owl even before this game.   If Pittsburgh is healthy, they have the firepower to match, maybe even exceed what NE has.

The Chiefs impressed the hades out of me, but I'm not a believer in Alex Smith getting them through a playoff gauntlet even though that was the best I've ever seen him play.  

Brady looked a bit old, mostly in that his mid to longer passes kept losing velocity before reaching the receiver. And it seemed that the long passes were put out there with an awful lot of arc. But, the CBs for NE looked lost. It's really rare to see guys as wide open as KC's WRs were. I was surprised that a Belichek (Matt Patricia) defense looked so bad.

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