Tit's week: MM Speaks/Practice Reports....

packerboiI lick rainbows

‏@MikeVandermause
MM: Always something to play for in this league. I don't like notion that you're not playing for anything.

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MM: I feel like this team has chance to be more balanced and well rounded than last year.

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MM: It's not just trying to coast in. I'm worried about how team is playing. Goal is to play best football in fourth quarter of season.

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MM: Important for us to get this team set and ready for the playoffs. We're all about beating Titans.

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MM: We're playing to beat the Titans. Focused on beating them. Not thinking about Vikings.

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MM: I don't think Aaron Rodgers' ankle will be a major issue.

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MM: Had chance to knock Bears out. We didn't do that. We will learn from that.

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MM: 2nd half thought offensive line played better. Didn't grade out as well offensively as we wanted. Left points on board.

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MM: Will have better handle on Jordy Nelson on Wednesday.

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MM: Haven't talked to Dr. McKenzie about Woodson and his status. I think he needs to play, whether this week or next.

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MM: Woodson, we're going to play him as soon as he's ready. Winning division won't impact when he comes back. He wants to play.

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MM: I like the way Matthews goes about his business.

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MM: Matthews played 48 reps. Exactly what we were looking for. Productive day and kept his reps under 50.

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MM: Clay Matthews is one of game ball winners. Thought he was exceptional. Clearly one of best defensive players in league.

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MM: There's things Mason does extremely well. It comes down to mental edge and we need to get that back.

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MM: When results aren't what you want, you have to choose which way to go. Our choice is to stick with Crosby.

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MM: Goes to core of philosophy with how we operate here. It's about draft and develop. It's about growth.

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MM: Evaluation of everybody is ongoing process as you prepare to win each game. No one's happy about number of kicks he has missed.

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MM: 4th down is something we game plan every week.

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MM: First 4th down we went for was more based on wind, down and distance. Other one was 4th and 2.

MM: I'm disappointed in way Crosby performed yesterday. At end of day, Mason will be our kicker.

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MM: Mason Crosby is accountable man. He needs to perform better.

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McCarthy: Is Mason still your guy? Yes.

12/17/123:32 PM

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GBFanForLifeLarge Member

Is Crosby still the kicker?

12/17/123:36 PM

BrakMember

Vague.

12/17/123:37 PM

packerboiI lick rainbows

I do wonder how much of this is MM being loyal/stubburn vs they really don't feel there is a better option out there.

12/17/123:37 PM

heywardKaty Perry is bouncy

quote:
Originally posted by packerboi:
I do wonder how much of this is MM being loyal/stubburn vs they really don't feel there is a better option out there.

Honestly, there can't be a worse option out there. The guy has been a total mess for months.

12/17/123:44 PM

Pikes PeakMember

He's still our guy for kickoffs and pats.....

12/17/123:51 PM

Salmon DaveMember

quote:
Originally posted by GBFanForLife:
Is Crosby still the kicker?

quote:
Originally posted by Brak:
Vague.

I wish he'd just come out and say it instead of constantly beating around the bush. He's a grown man, no need to be so coy about it.

12/17/124:11 PM

GoallineLarge Antenna

quote:
‏@MikeVandermause
MM: I don't think Aaron Rodgers' ankle will be a major issue.

God help us!

12/17/124:18 PM

PackerRussDo I amuse you?!

Mason is a mess, no doubt, but he is better than what is out there. I think they don't want to release him, becuase 31 other teams will pick him up. The Packers and myself believe that he will turn it around.... plus it makes the kicking part of the game exciting.

12/17/124:19 PM

GoallineLarge Antenna

quote:
Originally posted by Brak:
Vague.

More emoticons, please.

12/17/124:20 PM

titmfatiedNo Code

Sounds strange but at some point it's almost not fair to keep Mason on the team. If a horse has a broken leg sometimes it's better to put it out of its misery.

12/17/125:02 PM

packerboiI lick rainbows

One of the talking heads on local sports radio here said today that once a kicker loses it, history has shown it takes the same kicker a full season to get it back (if at all) and it is almost always with another team.

I have no idea if he was talking out of his a** or he had stats to back that up. But I do know on the first miss I believe Crosby missed it right. He then overcompensated on the 2nd kick and pushed it too left.

I also have little confidence that Slocum is being much help. I understand he's not going out there and kicking it but I doubt he's offering useful advice either.

12/17/125:50 PM

tsr86freeMember

I really think when all is said and done, we'll look back on this year as an aberration, and keeping faith in Crosby will pay off. That is not a popular view, I know.

12/17/125:58 PM

titmfatiedNo Code

quote:
Originally posted by packerboi:
One of the talking heads on local sports radio here said today that once a kicker loses it, history has shown it takes the same kicker a full season to get it back (if at all) and it is almost always with another team.

I heard the same thing. If I'm remembering correctly it was on the radio pregame this week and it was Michael Lombardi of the NFL Network relating a thought of Bill Parcells.

12/17/126:01 PM

barristerMember

quote:
Originally posted by titmfatied:
Sounds strange but at some point it's almost not fair to keep Mason on the team. If a horse has a broken leg sometimes it's better to put it out of its misery.

That suggests that it isn't fair to Crosby. I would take it (obvious) one step further: it is not fair to the other guys playing every Sunday. Crosby's issues could very well cost this team a chance at advancing in the playoffs. As I've said before, if Crosby missed a game winning kick in the playoffs, no one would be shocked. In fact, given the way the season has gone, many may expect it in that position. MM shouldn't risk our chance at another Super Bowl because he wants to demonstrate loyalty to Crosby.

12/17/126:12 PM

WolfPackMember

just now loggin in...has MM / Slocum or Cobb anwered about that throwback on the punt? curious as to whether it was called from the sideline or something Cobb saw presnap???

12/17/126:22 PM

TdogProspective Member

MM called it. Everyone was on board.

12/17/126:24 PM

NJWISMember

quote:
Originally posted by PackerRuss:
Mason is a mess, no doubt, but he is better than what is out there. I think they don't want to release him, becuase 31 other teams will pick him up. The Packers and myself believe that he will turn it around.... plus it makes the kicking part of the game exciting.

You sound like sherman when he kept BJ Sander on the roster for fear of losing him....

12/17/126:28 PM

Dr._BobMember

I suspect it's an issue of knowing that Crosby has shown in the past he can be a very good kicker, while picking up another kicker is hit and miss (so to speak). So if you're going to gamble, go with the guy who has at least shown he is capable of it in the past rather than going with an unknown. I sure as hell wouldn't want to enter the playoffs with a new kicker. They will get him competition during training camp, but at this point I think Crosby is here until the end of the playoffs, even if that end is because of him. If nothing else, he is still good at kickoffs.

12/17/126:28 PM

barristerMember

Mare was the better kicker on the field yesterday, and he was unemployed two weeks ago.

I don't think you stick with Crosby because he has gotten the job done before in the past. Statistically speaking, he is the worst in the league this year, and it isn't close. There must be a better option at this point. That said, I'll leave the decision to TT and MM to make that call. They've obviously earned the benefit of the doubt.

12/17/126:35 PM

R MaNNothing in particular

quote:
Originally posted by packerboi:
I understand he's not going out there and kicking it but I doubt he's offering useful advice either.

There is no way of knowing that about Slocum.

12/17/127:03 PM

JodyMember

Other than Crosby, Special Teams has been the best performing unit on this team. So I don't know how you can hang this Crosby issue on Slocum.

12/17/127:15 PM

phaedrusMember

I have absolutely zero confidence in Crosby for a kick 35 yards or more in any kind of pressure moment.

So, with my sense of things, I would be looking elsewhere for the rest of the season.

12/17/128:15 PM

RatPackMember

I suspect the focus on kicking 55-60 yard FG's earlier may be the culprit. Trying to kick a little harder with a smaller margin for error is a fine line that once crossed, confidence could erode kwikly. Just a hunch.

12/17/129:18 PM

Blair KielGOOD OL' FAKE BLAIR KIEL - My Hood? nice Henry. Fuck You!

Those distance kicks move more than a bad golf drive.

12/17/129:19 PM

H5Keyboard Warrior, troll hunter

Mason is 72% at Lambeau and 47% on the road this year.

12/17/1210:02 PM

PackdogMember

quote:
MM: There's things Mason does extremely well

I wonder if selling insurance is one of them ?

12/18/1212:10 AM

bubbleboy789Member

Matthews played 50 of 55 snaps. So much for easing him back on a snap count. Had 2 sacks but I really liked what he did in the run game. I think the hammy is fine...

12/18/1212:57 AM

radmanMember

Heck the guy (Crosby) probably just needs a great hummer

12/18/121:44 AM

FLPACKERMember

quote:
Originally posted by bubbleboy789:
Matthews played 50 of 55 snaps. So much for easing him back on a snap count. Had 2 sacks but I really liked what he did in the run game. I think the hammy is fine...

...I read that he played 48 snaps & they had targeted 50 as his limit. Seeing that the Bears offense was inept, they didn't run many plays, thus letting him play the vast majority of snaps.

12/18/125:12 AM

WolfPackMember

quote:
Originally posted by radman:
Heck the guy (Crosby) probably just needs a great hummer

Thanks for volunteering and taking one for the team.

watch out, I bet he shoots it wide right

12/18/126:17 AM

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