Trouble Brewing in G Town?

The QB needs to quit talking and start playing to his abilities. The scout team aren't the reason he holds the ball so long. BTW skip, no pun intended, the Bayless quotes. He's an idiot.

After the Super Bowl win and the 2011 win streak, I sometimes wondered what, if anything could cause McCarthy or Thompson to get run out of town after building such an impressive juggernaut. The sort of atmosphere that seems to be bubbling (thankfully, still at a low level) is that thing that could spiral out of control and derail everything if it isn't dealt with immediately. All of these guys need to stop talking to the media about what everyone else is doing wrong, get together and figure this **** out. Until a couple weeks ago, I would have never even dreamed about a fracture in this team's locker room, but it now is within the realm of possibility. It's an issue that hasn't really existed since the darkest days of the Ray Rhodes disaster. The talent is there on this team, and it would just be sickening to see it all go to waste because the players can't get along.

I've got a lot of faith in the Packers brain trust that this will not be allowed to continue, and these incidents will not run the team into the ground. Aaron is bright enough, on his own (to correct himself), and I think/hope there is strong leadership in the locker room to keep this team moving in the right direction.

Something isn't right for sure.

A week ago Josh Sitton and TJ Lang came out and made some not so subtle comments about the playcalling. Those guys aren't exactly known for pulling a Jermichael Finley with the media.

Now you have Rodgers stepping out and making comments about other guys which hasn't exactly been in his character.

Certainly I get the sense that the players are frustrated with how the season has gone, but they are only 5 games in so it's not like it's a lost cause. However, if they continue their inept and inconsistent play the season will be over in a hurry.

They need to channel that frustration and take it out on the field and STFU with going to the media and airing dirty laundry. A few wins would do wonder for this team.

I've been as big an AR (and anti-Favre) fan as there is....but IMHO, this all falls back on AR. He has gotten the most publicity & accolades of any NFL player over the past 2 seasons...& rightfully so, however he is not playing to the level he has in the previous two years & everyone knows it, especially the players who watch the game film. They know that he's changing plays, missing open receivers, & holding the ball too long. They see this but have to listen to everyone lay the blame on: 1) The receivers not getting open 2) The receivers not "reading the defense" properly 3) The oline not pass blocking 4)Our RB's aren't any good.5) Receivers dropping balls (which they are) Then he throws the young guys under the bus for poor practice habits? I get the players frustration. Winning takes care of alot of problems & if AR plays better we will start winning....it really is that simple.

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While Rodgers may be right in his opinions, I am unsure he should have said what he said and the way he said it.

If it's a few guys goofing off you say some of the guys need to step up and focus without throwing them all under the bus. I think this may be more of a message to the coaching staff than the players. I have a hard time believing Mike Daniels does anything without a serious tone. By including the whole group it seems like they're not being given proper direction.

From the information above it looks like the previous duties of Philbin making sure the scout team is giving the right looks has been inherited by James Campen. I'm not surprised that this has become an issue. Philbin was carrying Campen's workload with the offensive line for years. Perhaps Campen isn't ready for the increased responsibility.

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what Skip Bayless has to say

In case anyone's interested

Audio:
First Take Wednesday, October 10th, 2012

Segment starts about 42 minutes in.

Excuse List Grows:

1.Refs
2. Play Calling
3. Scout Team Practice Level

Man I miss the days when it was just pad-level.

And...AR needs to keep those comments in the locker room.

First step to fixing this mess is getting rid of 88. Trade him, cut him, don't care.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Pack-Man:
After the Super Bowl win and the 2011 win streak, I sometimes wondered what, if anything could cause McCarthy or Thompson to get run out of town after building such an impressive juggernaut. QUOTE]


A yr ago we all thought GB was a juggernaut. Do we today? Me thinks not. I recall reading and hearing that the Pack was set up for a run, perhaps 3 or 4 championships. The O was unstoppable, the D was opportunistic, the coaches were steady and innovative, the front office was making all the right decisions, etc.

What do we have today, a stoppable O, the is D bend and break, certainly not opportunistic, and the coaches, other than a couple of trick special team plays seem to be a one trick pony.

Since the KC loss this team seems to be different to me and most observers, what happened? All teams have injuries and most have some discontent among players and coaches.

Can these problems be corrected? All of them?

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Excuse List Grows:

1.Refs
2. Play Calling
3. Scout Team Practice Level
4. 88

Man I miss the days when it was just pad-level.

And...AR needs to keep those comments in the locker room.

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Nothing there that a win tomorrow night won't solve. The team is obviously frustrated, but they need to try and keep it behind closed doors.

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Originally posted by michiganjoe:
Nothing there that a win tomorrow night won't solve. The team is obviously frustrated, but they need to try and keep it behind closed doors.

After the loss to SF I thought a win against the Bears would solve it, after the Seattle loss I thought a win against the Saints would solve it.....

Continual rehashing of the same quotes by another writer. Old news.

Need to close the locker room doors, let it all out, and keep it in-house. That's the first step. Second step, everyone needs to check his ego at the door. The way we've played there's a lot of bruised egos right now, in addition to the treatment we've been getting from refs/Goodell. Bruised egos want others to be at fault, so they start looking something/someone to blame. "We're open," "no, you're not," "the scout teams suck," "we need better plays," yada, yada, yada. Every single player needs to shut up, look in the mirror, and decide what they need to do to improve THE TEAM. Right now, it seems like everyone is taking an "every man for himself" attitude, when the Big G on the helmet is all that should matter. MM and the coaches, along with Rodgers and Woodson, need to lead the charge and never let the players forget THE TEAM is No. 1.

We are as close to being 4-1 as we are to our current record. The talent is no worse than during our undefeated run, it is the execution of the offense in particular that is worse. I think the defense has played better than last year in most of the games this season.

Even if we lose to the Texans, I see us over .500 at the break, putting us still in the playoff hunt. 5 of our last 7 games are divisional games.

Ask Atlanta two years ago or us last year if it is better to be hot at the end then now.....

Defense has played better with the exception of dropping a bunch of interceptions.

They should be 3-2 - we all know that

However, they haven't played a complete game with the exception of the Bears game.

The good news is that they still have 5 divisional games left and they are 1-0 in the North. Even if they lose this week they can still make up some ground, but 3-3 is a lot better than 2-4

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Originally posted by slowmo:
We are as close to being 4-1 as we are to our current record.

This is the same kind of talk we heard in 2010. Very good team, but had some tough breaks. Usually it was injuries, a lot of injuries, but they had like 6 losses of 3 points or less. It seemed to really humble the team and made them hungry to prove people wrong. Last year it seemed they got complacen which seemed to spill over this year while teams like San Fran and Houston are hungry. Hopefully the Indy game was a reality check!

I keep thinking that they will break out of their funk and I really do think that they will. I just hope it's not too late. The talent on offense is similiar to last year with the only mentionable decrease being Saturday at center. The talent on defense is better IMO, but obviously they need to execute better. They have had enough wake up calls starting with the KC game last year. It's time to stop all the finger pointing and play to their potential.

And that's one of the big differences between today and 2010. Nobody was pointing any fingers and the team had to circle the wagons after all the injuries. They also showed steady improvement in the second half of the season and while we're only in week 6, I see a lot of ups and downs but more problems on offense than are able to ignore.

I see the Texans just holding AR under seige in the first half with their pass rush/pressure. I think the second half is where we see whether or not this team is prepared to make something of the season.

Ain't no stopping them now!

Packers sign G Van Roten to active roster

Always felt we were one Dutchman away from greatness.

Is Van Roten the other end of Benson to IR move?

Can he play Center??

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Originally posted by FLPACKER:
I've been as big an AR (and anti-Favre) fan as there is....but IMHO, this all falls back on AR. He has gotten the most publicity & accolades of any NFL player over the past 2 seasons...& rightfully so, however he is not playing to the level he has in the previous two years & everyone knows it, especially the players who watch the game film. They know that he's changing plays, missing open receivers, & holding the ball too long. They see this but have to listen to everyone lay the blame on: 1) The receivers not getting open 2) The receivers not "reading the defense" properly 3) The oline not pass blocking 4)Our RB's aren't any good.5) Receivers dropping balls (which they are) Then he throws the young guys under the bus for poor practice habits? I get the players frustration. Winning takes care of alot of problems & if AR plays better we will start winning....it really is that simple.

...okay...based on this: http://jerseyal.com/GBP/2012/1...on-rodgers-look-bad/ ...I'm taking back everything I said!