Trust the System, Management and Coaches

Like the monkees once said - "I'm a believer".

Actually, I trust everything but our coaches. Why are we so dang flat to start games and the 3rd quarter?

We have a new OC, QB coach, receivers coach. It's not just MM.

This is chump change compared to what #12 overcame in the locker room, on the field and in the media starting in the summer of 2008.

I think GB's record will be 2-4 after Sunday night... but they'll catch fire after that and string together some wins. Even at 2-4, I think they'll win the division and go into the playoffs on a roll. The schedule lightens up and there's 7 division games left.

If they can somehow squeak a W out in Houston, all the better.

Look, we've scored 6 third quarter points in 5 games. I'm suspicious of the halftime adjustments too.

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Originally posted by LarseeBear:
Actually, I trust everything but our coaches. Why are we so dang flat to start games and the 3rd quarter?

We have a new OC, QB coach, receivers coach. It's not just MM.

Who is the new WR coach?

Edgar Bennett....is the new WR coach.

EB was also the new WR coach last year when GB's offense was dismantling the league.

I'm a believer.

They'll win tomorrow night. They'll go to playoffs. And they'll shut everyone the hell up.

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Originally posted by Pakrz:
EB was also the new WR coach last year when GB's offense was dismantling the league.

Rite.

This is like the 3rd thread that has mentioned the new WR coach as part of the offensive problems this season.

When they smell blood, they really pounce.

The last time I really doubted the TT,MM,AR regime was after that TAmpa game in 2009. They had a an "airing of the grievances" after that game and turned things around. Hopefully that Colts debacle triggered something similar.

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Originally posted by Orlando Wolf:
Cancers will be scrapped out.

Was there an infusion of pink I missed?

I'm currently making myself believe that any potential rifts in the locker room have been dealt with and that the Packers will have a good showing tomorrow (not necessarily win, but play at least play strong, competitive football). If they do win, they still have a great deal of work ahead of them before they can consider the early season stink of these three losses to be behind them.

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Right now is where fans players either trust the system

Would be far more appropriate vs the fans.

Seems to me the players are having more of this issue then the fans are.

Not sure how much players are questioning coaching as they are one another. Maybe the oline wants to run block more but what offensive lineman prefers dropping back into pass protect vs mashing ahead? Not many.

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Originally posted by Orlando Wolf:
This is where the true believers come out and so do frauds. Right now is where fans either trust the system, Thompson and coaches or they don't.

Count me as a believer. Cancers will be scrapped out. Underachievers will start producing. May not be 12-4 but this will cease.

I guess i'm not a true fan because I didnt trust the coaches and system under Rhodes..

Such a silly statement.

Trusting a guy that allowed gambling and weed in the locker room compared to trusting a regime that won a Lombardi trophy are two different things. Aren't they?

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Originally posted by Orlando Wolf:
Not sure how much players are questioning coaching as they are one another. Maybe the oline wants to run block more but what offensive lineman prefers dropping back into pass protect vs mashing ahead? Not many.

When one of your key OL is saying you can't pass the ball 20 times (refering to 2nd half of the Colts game) and is openly asking why his team passed the ball 6 straight times to open the 2nd half...that's directly and openly questioning coaching.

When several other players then openly defend themselves and their positions you can't help but wonder if MM has a handle on his team as he's had before and if GB does lose this week...how much worse will team chemistry get and how much more finger pointing will we see. That's not about fan support. That's all on players vs coaching/management.

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Pack's O-line irked by play-calling

During the second half of Green Bay's loss to the Colts, the Packers ran 25 pass plays against only six runs, something the offensive line would like to see evened out a bit. Both guards, T.J. Lang and Josh Sitton, made sharp comments after the game questioning the scarcity of run plays called in a game the Packers led, 21-3, at halftime. They felt Colts pass rushers were able to keep their engines revved the entire second half, knowing there wouldn't be any reason to throttle down for a run play. ... [Said Jeff Saturday:] "It puts a ton of pressure on you up front when everybody in the building knows: This is what you got."

"We're nobodies underdog."

There is something the coaches do not trust about Alex Green. I have no idea if it's the knee, ball security, pass protection assignment responsibility or what but they brought in Benson during training camp, gave him all the work he could handle, and had a balanced attack in the Colts game before he went down (I think it was close to 50-50 if I'm not mistaken).

As soon as it was Green's turn the balance fell away. They seem really unsure of Green and really really unhappy with Starks. I don't know what it is, but I hope the coaches are wrong in whatever they're thinking and Green just needed some game reps to get adjusted.

I don't want to be a 'true believer.' Post Favre I've canned the zealotry thing.

Anyway, I hope the system, management, and coaches get it together, but let's face it, they've blown it so far Up 21-3 with the ball to start the second half it's a perfectly sensible strategy to run the ball, and bleed the clock until Indy proves to be a threat. To have that game back within a score after a mere 5 minutes is laughable.

It's not about them underachieving, it's about outright incompetence.

But, I don't see the Texans of all teams as some kind of unstoppable juggernaut. Come in with a good offensive gameplan, and see if Schaub can play from behind. He's a good QB, but he's more Matt Ryan than he is Aaron Rodgers.

I don't think we can just beat the Texans, I think we can absolutely obliterate them. Hopefully the team has gotten its act together over the past week.

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Originally posted by bubbleboy789:
I'm a believer.

They'll win tomorrow night. They'll go to playoffs. And they'll shut everyone the hell up.

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Originally posted by 4 Favre:

I don't think we can just beat the Texans, I think we can absolutely obliterate them. Hopefully the team has gotten its act together over the past week.

I'm not above patting myself on the back if nobody else is gonna do it.

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