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Sad to hear, never want to see this kind of thing happen to any team.
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Incredibly sad news. RIP Tony.
Well now I feel bad for posting in the Vikings Suck thread this week. 
Good I'm glad this was posted in a separate thread from the VS thread.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/...-sparano-dies-age-56
Here's the ESPN link
Went to the hospital with chest pains a few days earlier and they didn't find anything? As a heart attack survivor, I find that appalling. RIP Tony.
Goes to the hospital for chest pains, released and then dead 3 days later. I hope his family sues that hospital.
I heard a rumor that medical incompetence accounts for approximately 700 deaths in the United States per day.
700.
Very sad to hear. RIP. Agree, 56 is way too young.
Pakrz posted:I heard a rumor that medical incompetence accounts for approximately 700 deaths in the United States per day.
700.
Out of how many millions of interactions in a day? I wonder how many are gun shot wounds and were they actively inflicted on the patient? Context matters.
RIP Tony. I hope you had a good life with what time you were given. All you can ask for.
I'm not okay with 250,000 people dying each year due to a negligence. You're good with this?
Its good to recognize a problem and find ways to assess and address the problem for public safety. It seems like a reasonable thing a civilized society would do
Agreed. Take gun violence that Henry brought up for instance... on average, there are 13,000 people in the USA that die (Homicide) each year from firearms. I mean, it's not 250,000 but it's certainly not acceptable in a civilized society.
I was listening to local sports media talking about the health of MM.
Some think he's gained well over a bill since taking the job here. Couple that with the ridiculous stress of being an NFL coach, his family history of sudden cardiac death (recall his brother died suddenly), and likely poor sleep he gets especially during the season, you do worry about him.
I know MM is hardly the exception among NFL coaches who've gained significant weight, poor sleep, etc. But it's a sad reminder how damn stressful these jobs are.
While I feel bad for the Sparano family, non of which I know personally, I still feel bad for them. But let me be clear here, this gives Viking fans a built in excuse for the season.
Packiderm posted:Went to the hospital with chest pains a few days earlier and they didn't find anything? As a heart attack survivor, I find that appalling. RIP Tony.
I was 41 years old and developed these crushing chest pains. Heart attack was the furthest thing from my mind. Although the pain/feeling was intermittent, when it occurred, it was pretty intense.
After 3-4 days of this, I finally had an appointment at a cardiologist. They diagnosed acid reflux, prescribed some medication, scheduled a treadmill test 2 days later, and sent me on my way.
After that test, they recommended catheterization for the next day, and would place any stent(s) needed. I hadn't been experiencing any further pain for those few days, so was confident for the procedure.
During that procedure, I began to experience severe chest pain, told the doctors, they replied there was medicine coming to help me out with that. I woke up the next day to find out they dissected an artery with a stent (blamed it on a "weak spot" on the artery), so all of a sudden, open-heart surgery was needed, and the surgeon did 3 graft bypasses.
Switching practices had even worse results, culminating in having 3 heart attacks over an eight month period, and it just about killed me, needless to say.
Suing for malpractice/negligence/incompetence?
Since I had a "positive outcome" I "didn't have a case".
It's actually better if you die, and your surviving spouse sues. The original cardio group I started with had to pay a $3M settlement to a man, who went there complaining of chest pains, had a stress test scheduled for a few days later, and was sent on his way, only to die from a heart attack the day before the test.
....While in a motel room....having three way sex involving a woman who wasn't his wife!!
Only In America...
Not to take away from the story, but I would imagine in many scenarios where you are having three way sex that one of the parties would be a woman who wasn't your wife.
Glad you’re still around Timmy!
Lord knows they tried to add you to the 700/250,000 list.
Pakrz posted:Agreed. Take gun violence that Henry brought up for instance... on average, there are 13,000 people in the USA that die (Homicide) each year from firearms. I mean, it's not 250,000 but it's certainly not acceptable in a civilized society.
I'm good on both fronts. This society needs some thinning.
Yeah, doctors are the boogeymen like AR15s. Doctors don't kill people, people going to doctors kill people. I wonder if the AMA has any foreign agents helping them out with this conundrum?
Since American medicine sucks I think it's time for universal coverage considering the superiority of American medicine argument is off the table. Just a thought.
BTW, I have no desire to belittle the experiences Timmy and Packiderm went through, I've got my own experiences as well. Doctors don't set out to do harm, they even have an oath. Negligence and pre-meditation are different I hear.
Tony Sparano is learning the Packers sweep from Vince right now. That's happiness.
El-Ka-Bong posted:Not to take away from the story, but I would imagine in many scenarios where you are having three way sex that one of the parties would be a woman who wasn't your wife.
Way too young. Did a heck of a job with the Dolphins for one year but couldn't sustain it.
RIP
Pakrz posted:Agreed. Take gun violence that Henry brought up for instance... on average, there are 13,000 people in the USA that die (Homicide) each year from firearms. I mean, it's not 250,000 but it's certainly not acceptable in a civilized society.
With over half a million people dying from heart disease, we should probably start there and worry about doctor error and gun violence once that is completely taken care of. No way we can focus on multiple things at once.
Pakrz posted:Glad you’re still around Timmy!
Lord knows they tried to add you to the 700/250,000 list.
Dang right I’m so glad you’re still around Timmy.....who would talk to me in the chat during Packer games? 
I had arm weakness and heartburn. No chest pains.Called my regular doc and he says go to ER. got to ER and they give me Nitro patch,O2 and start doing blood tests. ER doc says with my family history they want to keep me overnight. More blood tests during the night. Cardio doc comes in my room the next morning and says there was a slight abnormality in one blood test. He wants to send me to another hospital for a cardiac cath. He says most likely nothing but he WANTS TO BE SURE. I take an ambulance ride and wait like 6 hours to get in the lab. I'm awake through the whole thing and my LAD is blocked in 2 places 95%. 2 stents are put in. This was just about 4 yrs. ago.
Very sad news. Thoughts and prayers go out to the family.
Heart disease according to ME this morning.
56 - He's younger than a lot of people on this board - That's just not right
From what I’ve read. He was a great husband and father. Football life was secondary.
Good life cut way too short.
His shining moment in the coaching profession had to be getting the 2008 Miami Dolphins to win the AFC East. He had a washed up Chad Pennington at QB, but was able to hold off Favre and the Jets and took advantage of New England without Brady. He completely fooled one of the greatest coaches of all time in Belichick with his wildcat formations that Pats were completely unprepared for.
He didn't have many more years like that, but hey, that was an incredible coaching job he did that season. I don't know that there are many coaches out there that could have gotten a division championship out of that team, but he was able to do it.
Glad to hear he also was a good human being to go along with being a fine coach. RIP Coach Sparano.
My apologies for taking this off-topic.
RIP
56 is way too young.
Celebrating my sister's life today. She passed at 67 on Memorial day.
Pakrz posted:I heard a rumor that medical incompetence accounts for approximately 700 deaths in the United States per day.
700.
Rumor? Or is there data to back this up?
Those in the medical profession are not perfect. Some graduate in the bottom of their class.
I'm not excusing incompetance, it should never be excused.
it works both ways.....my friend was diagnosed 5 years ago with stage 4 lung cancer, given a few months to live. She sold her house, car etc and got her affairs in order. She is still alive. Is this incompetence, error or malpractice? The are no guarantees in the medical profession.
Hungry5 posted:56 is way too young.
Celebrating my sister's life today. She passed at 67 on Memorial day.
Sorry for your loss, Hungry.
You have my sympathy, Hungry5. At my age 67 is too young also.