Was he ticked at McCarthy for throwing the flag, or just upset about the play?
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Upset about the play
He should have been upset with MM throwing the flag. 
My guess is he was yelling at MM for throwing the flag.
quote:Originally posted by Nick:
Upset about the play
Huh, it was a touchdown.
quote:Originally posted by Goalline:quote:Originally posted by Nick:
Upset about the play
Huh, it was a touchdown.
Yeah, after the refs reviewed it
Review process is a comedy act.
Question: It's a penalty for the red flag to be thrown on a TD since all TDs are reviewed anyway. But if the ballcarrier is ruled down on the field, and the call on the field is NOT a TD, why is it a penalty for the red flag to be thrown? Is a non-TD reviewed anyway just because it's "close"?
No; the idot refs on the field called it a fumble recovered by Minnesohhhhhhhta. All turnovers are automatically reviewed by the booth.
Ah. Thanks!
Can someone 'splain why throwing the flag there is 15 yards? Clearly, MM threw it as a knee jerk reaction in the heat of the moment. What's the harm? Pick up the flag and move on. Lord knows the refs piss away more time on less important things during the course of a game.
It's a dumb rule that will be changed next year.
quote:Originally posted by YATittle:
It's a dumb rule that will be changed next year.
Agreed. But that dumb rule made Schwartz look like an idiot on Thanksgiving, and it might have cost the Lions a win. MM was very fortunate that the play was still reviewed after he threw the flag. It could have cost the Packers a TD.
My guess is that ARod has had enough of piss-poor calls from the refs, and was expressing his opinions about their capabilities.
That play was a cluster@#$& from the moment the play ended by the refs, ARod saw what was coming, and they managed to make the worst possible call they could have. I was pissed off, too.
BTW, if I may ask a favor from anyone with DVR capabilities, look at this play at the very end of the "live" shot. The refs are beginning to gather to "discuss what they saw", and as the camera pulls back, it looked to me like there was a black ref standing on the goalline signaling a TD. I could only see his back and arms before they cut away from that angle, but his arms were raised, and I'm sure he wasn't calling for clock stoppage.
That play was a cluster@#$& from the moment the play ended by the refs, ARod saw what was coming, and they managed to make the worst possible call they could have. I was pissed off, too.
BTW, if I may ask a favor from anyone with DVR capabilities, look at this play at the very end of the "live" shot. The refs are beginning to gather to "discuss what they saw", and as the camera pulls back, it looked to me like there was a black ref standing on the goalline signaling a TD. I could only see his back and arms before they cut away from that angle, but his arms were raised, and I'm sure he wasn't calling for clock stoppage.
Might have even cost us the gamequote:Originally posted by bdplant:
MM was very fortunate that the play was still reviewed after he threw the flag. It could have cost the Packers a TD.
quote:Originally posted by Timmy!:
BTW, if I may ask a favor from anyone with DVR capabilities, look at this play at the very end of the "live" shot. The refs are beginning to gather to "discuss what they saw", and as the camera pulls back, it looked to me like there was a black ref standing on the goalline signaling a TD. I could only see his back and arms before they cut away from that angle, but his arms were raised, and I'm sure he wasn't calling for clock stoppage.
He puts his hands up but he's not signaling touchdown, he's not even involved in the discussion.
I don't have a problem with the rule. Stupidity should be painful. Now if only that could be applied to the officials too....quote:Originally posted by Badgeman:
Can someone 'splain why throwing the flag there is 15 yards? Clearly, MM threw it as a knee jerk reaction in the heat of the moment. What's the harm? Pick up the flag and move on. Lord knows the refs piss away more time on less important things during the course of a game.
The biggest thing Rodgers was mad about was how slow Carey was spotting the ball.
It was ruining the timing of the offense. MM was mad about it too. It also helped the Vikings defense get prepared for the next play. Small thing most average fans won't notice but it affects the game.
I expect to see more of it on Saturday.
NFLFU does not want the Packers winning this year. Get used to it.
Your darling teams in the NFC....
Seattle / Washington / Minnesota / 49ers (New stadium to fill)
In the AFC....
Patriots (Always, Bob Kraft) / Broncos (Manning) / Bengals / Colts
I expect to see 1 from each conference in the Super Bowl.
Packers / Atlanta / Baltimore / Houston / One of them might make the Championship games but that'll be it.
It was ruining the timing of the offense. MM was mad about it too. It also helped the Vikings defense get prepared for the next play. Small thing most average fans won't notice but it affects the game.
I expect to see more of it on Saturday.
NFLFU does not want the Packers winning this year. Get used to it.
Your darling teams in the NFC....
Seattle / Washington / Minnesota / 49ers (New stadium to fill)
In the AFC....
Patriots (Always, Bob Kraft) / Broncos (Manning) / Bengals / Colts
I expect to see 1 from each conference in the Super Bowl.
Packers / Atlanta / Baltimore / Houston / One of them might make the Championship games but that'll be it.
What Boris said. The NFL is getting like professional wrestling. too much money involved to let it just ride on competition.
It would be great if Clay Matthews and Jay Cutler addressed each other in an overly dramatic fashion with terribly written lines before each rivalry game.
quote:Originally posted by Boris:
NFLFU does not want the Packers winning this year. Get used to it.
I dunno. I think a matchup between Aaron Rodgers and Peyton Manning would have a lot of appeal from a marketing standpoint. Changing of the guard, passing of the torch, that sort of thing.... probably Manning's last legitimate shot at another ring, going up against the best quarterback of the new generation, the guy who's already starting to break all of Manning's records... one of the most legendary quarterbacks in history resurrecting his career against impossible odds, another legend-in-the-making trying to restore glory to the most legendary franchise in league history.... they can sell that one all day long. That'd be a good storyline. I should e-mail Roger and tell him to make it happen.
My take is that Rodgers was yelling at the coach based on the replay at 1:40 in Game Rewind. He followed Jordy who picked up the flag and may have been screaming prior to running off the field, but had clear view to everything and JN did. He turned his head and was facing the coach as he shouted when he was out of bounds.
Certainly, he was irritated with a lot of things prior to the event. These are all clearly detailed in the posts above. I think MM throwing the red flag is the straw that broke the camel's back.
He had reason to get mad, but the way he reacted was incredibly immature. I hope MM or someone else gave him an earful about that insubordination. It was completely unconstructive. You cannot yell at the coach like that. You can bet that if he ever does anything like this again that this sequence and the yelling at receivers earlier in the year (I think it was James Jones) will be rolled over and over. Skip Bayless will have a field day with this and be right.
If Finley or Jennings' sister did that, this board would all over them for that.
Certainly, he was irritated with a lot of things prior to the event. These are all clearly detailed in the posts above. I think MM throwing the red flag is the straw that broke the camel's back.
He had reason to get mad, but the way he reacted was incredibly immature. I hope MM or someone else gave him an earful about that insubordination. It was completely unconstructive. You cannot yell at the coach like that. You can bet that if he ever does anything like this again that this sequence and the yelling at receivers earlier in the year (I think it was James Jones) will be rolled over and over. Skip Bayless will have a field day with this and be right.
If Finley or Jennings' sister did that, this board would all over them for that.
quote:Originally posted by Badgeman:
Can someone 'splain why throwing the flag there is 15 yards? Clearly, MM threw it as a knee jerk reaction in the heat of the moment. What's the harm? Pick up the flag and move on. Lord knows the refs piss away more time on less important things during the course of a game.
Because the NFL likes giving the referees the power to decide who wins and loses games. This rule is just the latest weapon in their arsenal.
He was pissed that MM threw the flag.. Just a few weeks ago I was laughing at Jim Shorts for making the same blunder.. MM lucked out.
I can't wait for 2013 when the challenge flag penalty goes away. Dumbest rule in the NFL since the league thought the refs could decide if a receiver may have come down in bounds if he wasn't forced out.
The NCAA shows how easy the replay system is while the NFL makes it look like a complete CF.
The NCAA shows how easy the replay system is while the NFL makes it look like a complete CF.