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..and Goalline.

You couldn't ask this question in MY game thread?

I hope the USA kicks the crap out of Ghana in the World Cup......

....wait, what?

Used to be guys either caught the ball or they didn't.
Then came one /two feet, "one knee equals two feet", interpretations of being pushed OOB when making a reception, did he "make a football move", was possession maintained, and was "the process of the catch" completed....hell, the ball can even touch the ground! 

And I haven't even mentioned rule changes, OPI being virtually ignored, very liberal interpretations of pick plays.....

aww, that's too bad for Dez.  and Jerry Rice fumbled, the Fail Mary, etc etc etc yadda yadda.  ya never know what you're gonna get in an NFL foosball game, nothing's gonna change that.

Brainwashed Boris posted:

I'll be curious to what "So let's write the language to make them completions." turns out to be - if any change at all. Personally, I believed the rule was/is clear as currently written. The rule is not the problem, it is the interpretation. The only change I'd consider is clarifying possession/control. You catch it with 1 hand, keep control with that 1 hand. Catch it with 2 hands, keep control with those 2 hands. But this could also be accomplished through educating the refs to a consistent (as best as humanly possible) interpretation.

Current (2013) rule

CATCH

A catch is made when a player inbounds secures possession of a pass, kick, or fumble in flight (See 8-1-3).

Note 1: It is a catch if, in the process of attempting to catch the ball, a player secures control of the ball prior to it touching the ground and that control is maintained during and after the ball has touched the ground.

Note 2: In the field of play, if a catch of a forward pass has been completed, and there is contact by a defender causing the ball to come loose before the runner is down by contact, it is a fumble, and the ball remains alive. In the end zone, the same action is a touchdown, since the receiver completed the catch beyond the goal line prior to the loss of possession, and the ball is dead when the catch is completed.

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New rule clarifies a few things and I like the football move part, but it's still open to interpretation as to what a "football move" is exactly. I don't know that you could ever nail it down to perfection, so I'm okay with it. (That Ellington catch example...)

Music City posted:

The law of unintended consequences... maybe this time they got it right, but that’s the thing- they had it right before they tinkered. Like that stupid sideline “probability” rule... 

Agreed, the rule was right. I actually think this change does not resolve the issue. There is/was a problem with determining what is or is not a catch, but that had nothing to do with the rule. 

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