@Blair Kiel posted:Allen is as big and as fast as Cam Newton....and has a better arm.
Like Daunte Culpepper with better velocity, accuracy and knees.
Surprised Belicheck didn't use his timeouts.
Belicheck pussed out and put a jacket over the hoodie
Maybe Hyde lost it when he got burnt.
Bills are first team in NFL history to end every drive with a TD. No punts, no field goals, and 2 kneel downs at the end of each half. Could not have happened to a ‘nicer’ opponent. 👏
@PackerHawk posted:So is this game affirmation for Jaymo?
So does this mean the Bills become the favorite to win the Super Bowl or are the Patriots that bad?
Bills offensive / defensive lines playing much better of late
They invested in pass rush the past two drafts, as well. Rosseau, Basham and Epenesa to go with Hughes and Addision give them a very good rotation.
@bvan posted:Can't wait for Bill's presser...
On to the off season
@FLPACKER posted:Bills offensive / defensive lines playing much better of late
Last night was impressive as hell considering it wasn’t that long ago the Pats beat the Bills in that same stadium just a few weeks ago. Bills were out physicaled and out coached in that regular season loss. It was fluky due to weather, but the Pats did look like the slightly better team that night.
Last night was an incredible turnaround, I thought the Bills would win, but to completely destroy the Pats like they did was a surprise. That game for Josh Allen reminded me of Aaron Rodgers’ level of play in that 2010 win over Atlanta in the playoffs. It was a level of play so high, the other team had no chance.
Referee Jerome Boger and the officials from Saturday’s Raiders-Bengals game are not expected to work again this NFL postseason:https://t.co/oPdfnJxQD7
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) January 16, 2022
A mistake you don't want to see in the regular season; simply inexcusable in the postseason.
@michiganjoe posted:Referee Jerome Boger and the officials from Saturday’s Raiders-Bengals game are not expected to work again this NFL postseason:https://t.co/oPdfnJxQD7
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) January 16, 2022A mistake you don't want to see in the regular season; simply inexcusable in the postseason.
The inexcusable part is the dumbshit blowing the whistle while the play is still going.
How the dumbshit, with the play right in front of him, could think he saw Allen step out when he hadn’t should assure he never refs again.
@Blair Kiel posted:How the dumbshit, with the play right in front of him, could think he saw Allen step out when he hadn’t should assure he never refs again.
What should thinking Allen was involved in the Bengals Raiders game assure?
Oops. Allen, Burrow… potato, tomatoes.
Boger and crew were so bad, it affected both games.
@michiganjoe posted:Referee Jerome Boger and the officials from Saturday’s Raiders-Bengals game are not expected to work again this NFL postseason:https://t.co/oPdfnJxQD7
— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) January 16, 2022A mistake you don't want to see in the regular season; simply inexcusable in the postseason.
I'd like to know what the conversation was in the on-field conference after the play. I'd like to know if New York was involved. The fact that they talked about it and came to the conclusion that the play would stand is downright ridiculous.
@Blair Kiel posted:Oops. Allen, Burrow… potato, tomatoes.
They all look alike to you anyway...
@fightphoe93 posted:Last night was an incredible turnaround, I thought the Bills would win, but to completely destroy the Pats like they did was a surprise. That game for Josh Allen reminded me of Aaron Rodgers’ level of play in that 2010 win over Atlanta in the playoffs. It was a level of play so high, the other team had no chance.
He reminded me of Warner in that 2009 WC game. More TD's than incomplete passes.
I mean, if Warner was actually athletic. That part isn't comparable at all. 
I think Bill Cowher said it best when he said you play to the whistle it’s what every coach at even high school stresses. The whistle blew and you could see many Raiders just stopped playing. New York should have intervened even if the ref was an idiot
The Bengals-Raiders inadvertent whistle seems to be more of a media issue than a team issue. As in, I haven't heard the teams talk about it much after the game, especially the Raiders. Yes, it was wrong and stupid but if they overruled the TD, there would be a much bigger outrage. It sucks and the refs blew it but I'm glad they let the TD stand.
The Cowboys game......oh man what a s**t show. Going back to the stupid motion that Shanahan called leading to the false start on Williams. Just stupid and maybe I'm just a non-football layman but what was the purpose of that? Idiotic by both Shanahan call it then Garappolo for not letting a 330lb Williams get set. Then moronic defense by the 49ers on that last drive. I mean what were they thinking? Allowing 15 yard completions at will AND letting them get out of bounds. The prevent defense is an abject failure outside of being up 3 scores with 4 minutes left. I would NEVER allow my coordinator to call that defense when the game was still in doubt. But no problem b/c McCarthy/Moore made the moronic call of QB sneak with 14 seconds left and no timeouts. Yes maybe you get 15 more yards but does 1 shot from the 25 increase your odds more than 2 shots at the end zone from the 40? Questionable at best, and that ignores the possibility of not even getting another play off which is exactly what happened because Dak and the Cowboys don't know the rules. First, the center/Dak spotted the ball 1-2 yards further than it should have been (where the slide starts). Should have been the 25ish yard line and he spots it at the 24ish. This is exactly why the ref respots to the 25 (or tries). The o-line and Dak then BLOCK the ref from even getting to the ball. And why didn't Dak tell the ref what was going to happen so the ref knew to get in position? It's a common move done by every NFL team so this doesn't happen. Soooooo many mistakes on this play that can be identified and broken down but at the end, you increase your odds a few % points getting it 15 yards closer all while putting way too much in the hands of the officials. My big problem with blaming the refs in most end game cases is simply DON'T PUT YOURSELF IN A SPOT WHERE YOU HAVE TO RELY ON TEH OFFICIALS! But this one is all on McCarthy, Moore, and Dak. And complaining after the game showed how ill prepared this team was to run this play. And again, Dak spotted the ball at the 24 so the ref was 100% correct in moving it back. The idea that the Cowboys are allowed to place the ball on the field and the ref should just "tap" is embarrassing.
That said, I freaking loved seeing the Cowboys lose like this and then double down in their press conferences. Just an embarrassing display from coaches down to players.
@YATittle posted:I think Bill Cowher said it best when he said you play to the whistle it’s what every coach at even high school stresses. The whistle blew and you could see many Raiders just stopped playing. New York should have intervened even if the ref was an idiot
WTF! That whistle blew a micro second before the wide open receiver caught the ball. Unless you believe that whistles help receivers catch the ball, the whistle didn't change shit on that play.
@Goalline posted:WTF! That whistle blew a micro second before the wide open receiver caught the ball. Unless you believe that whistles help receivers catch the ball, the whistle didn't change shit on that play.
Exactly. The whistle had zero impact on the outcome of the play. No harm no foul.
@Jessie Clark posted:Exactly. The whistle had zero impact on the outcome of the play. No harm no foul.
I can't believe how much is being made of it. If those idiot refs had stuck by the letter of the law the Bengals would have gotten screwed. Folks just like tp whine about the refs. They are not good, but this time they didn't compound their error with another error.
@Goalline posted:WTF! That whistle blew a micro second before the wide open receiver caught the ball. Unless you believe that whistles help receivers catch the ball, the whistle didn't change shit on that play.
Go watch the replay. Raiders defenders were standing staring at the area where the ref blew the whistle. They had stopped playing.
@Goalline posted:I can't believe how much is being made of it. If those idiot refs had stuck by the letter of the law the Bengals would have gotten screwed. Folks just like tp whine about the refs. They are not good, but this time they didn't compound their error with another error.
As cowher correctly noted, when a play is stopped inadvertantly by a whistle, there is a process to be followed and allowing the TD isn't it.
Having said that, the fool that blew that whistle should be retired.
Some players play until the echo of the whistle....
@YATittle posted:Go watch the replay. Raiders defenders were standing staring at the area where the ref blew the whistle. They had stopped playing.
Since it would have been nearly impossible for the players to react at the same time the whistle was blown, I think the one or two guys that did start to pull up may have been reacting to seeing Burrow run out of bounds - and thought he was out when he threw the pass, thinking the play was over.
I could be wrong, of course, but when that play happened live, it sounded like the whistle had blown before, or slightly after, the ball was thrown.
It sounds much later on the replays, but I can't trust anything the league offers as an explanation.
Right or wrong, it was an incorrect ruling, and something that shouldn't happen on a professional level.