Wanted to separate this from the other poll. Since the draft is coming, might as well as have some history to talk about.
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Forgot about Andre Ware. I was confusing him with Charlie Ward for some reason.
Because he's black?
Do you think Robert Griffin III is the next Michael Vick.
As a Packer fan, I go no further than our very own Rich Campbell.
Please just becouse Campbell had trouble passing more thne 5 yards. Within that range he was very semi accurate.
Lay off Campbell he was a find for the 6 overall pick of his draft class.
Lay off Campbell he was a find for the 6 overall pick of his draft class.
I'll say this about Tim Couch, by the time he got to the Packers he was shockingly bad.
Earler in his career he was serviceable but injuries killed him.
Earler in his career he was serviceable but injuries killed him.
quote:Originally posted by Rusty:
Do you think Robert Griffin III is the next Michael Vick.
Another "athletic quarterback" that when forced to sit in the pocket and throw it through a window 40 yards downfield is unable to do it. No doubt. Won't even be in the league 4 years from now.
How come Brian Brohm and JP Losman aren't on the list? 
Sad.
I voted for you too.
Makes me look better.
I voted for you too.
Makes me look better.
I take it to make this list the QB in question had to be a high 1 round pick.
I suggest Rich Campbell should not be on the list. Is it his fault that the Packers brain trust took him so high when their own scouts doubted he hand the arm strength to play in the NFL.
I suggest Rich Campbell should not be on the list. Is it his fault that the Packers brain trust took him so high when their own scouts doubted he hand the arm strength to play in the NFL.
Curious because I don't watch too much college football. Which of these quarterbacks was the best college player?
Jamarcus Russell
#1 overall pick and nothing but suck.
Ryan Leaf gets dishonorable mention.
Tim Couch and David Carr never stood a chance. They were pasted early and often behind non-existant blockers. Russell and Leaf were not only bigger guys but had okay lines.
#1 overall pick and nothing but suck.
Ryan Leaf gets dishonorable mention.
Tim Couch and David Carr never stood a chance. They were pasted early and often behind non-existant blockers. Russell and Leaf were not only bigger guys but had okay lines.
David Carr was a bust but it was hardly fair to a guy that was sacked so many times, it broke the NFL record.
Kelly Stouffer was a huge bust also. He was drafted #7 in the immortal Mandarich draft will all the HOF'ers around him.
Kelly Stouffer was a huge bust also. He was drafted #7 in the immortal Mandarich draft will all the HOF'ers around him.
Jerry Tagge should probably make the list.
Jerry Tagge 11th overall pick 1972 went to Green Bay West High School, as a teenager worked at Lambeau field according to Wiki.
Michiganjoe, you bring back bad memories. From the time Starr retired to when Wolf came to Green Bay the Packers were like blind squirrels when it came to drafting QB's. This was the era when a lot of fans though like Kworst does now, the team was run by incompetents. During this time frame it was true. I have seen this dichotomy within my own family, the younger family member only know a well-run team; the older folks can get out of their heads that the team is still run like the current Dolphins.
Michiganjoe, you bring back bad memories. From the time Starr retired to when Wolf came to Green Bay the Packers were like blind squirrels when it came to drafting QB's. This was the era when a lot of fans though like Kworst does now, the team was run by incompetents. During this time frame it was true. I have seen this dichotomy within my own family, the younger family member only know a well-run team; the older folks can get out of their heads that the team is still run like the current Dolphins.
That was some brutal football to live through.
Overlooked in both polls -- and IMO number one if this were a Packers-only poll -- is Randy Duncan. Picked by the Pack in 1959 with the first pick in the entire draft, he went to Canada and played for two years then signed with an AFL team and played little the season he was with them.
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Scott Mitchell he was pretty bad wasn't he??
4th round pick that threw for over 15,000 yards and made the Pro Bowl once.
He would be as much of a bust as Don Majikowski.
That 1999 draft was really interesting
8 of the 10 first picks in that draft made the Pro Bowl at least once. Unfortunately, Tim Couch (#1 overall), and Akili Smith (#3 overall) did not.
I forgot that Cade McNown and Troy Edwards were also taken in the top 15 of that draft.
Talk about feast or famine- that's why nothing in the NFL draft is guaranteed
8 of the 10 first picks in that draft made the Pro Bowl at least once. Unfortunately, Tim Couch (#1 overall), and Akili Smith (#3 overall) did not.
I forgot that Cade McNown and Troy Edwards were also taken in the top 15 of that draft.
Talk about feast or famine- that's why nothing in the NFL draft is guaranteed
quote:Originally posted by PackerHawk:quote:Originally posted by Goldie:
Scott Mitchell he was pretty bad wasn't he??
4th round pick that threw for over 15,000 yards and made the Pro Bowl once.
He would be as much of a bust as Don Majikowski.
If you gave Majik eleventy billion dollars. Mitchell was a FA bust, not a draft bust.
Shuler was an enormous bust as well. IIRC, he went #3 or #4 overall.
quote:Originally posted by JJSD:
If you gave Majik eleventy billion dollars. Mitchell was a FA bust, not a draft bust.
Shuler was an enormous bust as well. IIRC, he went #3 or #4 overall.
He had a bad year, then a really good year followed by a couple of average years. He wasn't what the Lions hoped he would be but he was a long way from being a Rob Johnson or Kevin Kolb. Those guys were real FA/trade busts.