Would you start Walden over Zombo?... Starks over Jackson?...will McCarthy?

it will be situational rotation. Walden was good at blitzing, not so good at containing the edge on running plays. Zombo from what I remember reading was stout against the run.

sounds like a good complement to each other.

If everybody is healthy, my guess is Zombo starts over Waldo.

I'd expect Jackson to get the start over Starks too, but I'd prefer to see much more of Starks than Jackson.

I go with the hot hand. Walden is playing well, leave him in. Zombo probably isn't 100% anyway.

At RB, Starks on 1st and 2nd down, Kuhn on short yardage and BJax on 3rd down.

Rotate Walden and Zombo, but if Walden shows signs of repeating this Sunday's performance, keep him out there as much as possible.

I'd start Starks and use Jackson on 3rd downs or on screens.

Walden also can make a tackle in the open field. While he blew contain on ONE play, he also make some key open field stops.

Yeah, the note I read about Walden playing as spy on Cutler leads me to believe he might serve a similar role on Sunday.

Still not sure what the deal is with Starks. He looked like he was the savior to the running game against SF, then couldn't get on the field until yesterday. I think he's a better runner when he's in, but they likely don't trust him with blitz pickup yet.

I don't think there's any question Starks is the better runner. The problem, as has been stated by MM, is Starks' performance during the week at practice. It seems to me that if Starks proves he wants it during the week, he will get a chance.... over Nance....who will take a stance....in a trance....while doing a dance.

Shields would be the perfect spy on Vick if he was not so valuable as a CB. Didn't we use Rossum like that back in the day.

Its the playoffs. I don't care how Starks practices (whatever that means???), he appears to provide more spark to the running game. It almost sounds like MM has been holding him back to flex some authority and to make a point.

Really?

Start whomever gives them the best chance to win. IMO it's Starks at RB but not sure on the linebacker. Give Jackson back third down where he's good.

This spying talk makes me laugh. Spying Vick with any linebacker is futile. Holding the edges and maintaining defensive lane integrity is much more important.

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Originally posted by Blueshound:
Its the playoffs. I don't care how Starks practices (whatever that means???), he appears to provide more spark to the running game. It almost sounds like MM has been holding him back to flex some authority and to make a point.

MM holds him back to make a point? And what point is that? Utterly ridiculous. I thought we were done with the stupid conspiracy theories on this board.

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Originally posted by cuqui:
This spying talk makes me laugh. Spying Vick with any linebacker is futile. Holding the edges and maintaining defensive lane integrity is much more important.

The Vikings used Antoine Winfield and it worked to perfection. Sam Shields would be a good choice actually.

Disagree. Gotta keep the speedy Shields on the outside with Williams to cover Maclin and Jackson. I look for Woody to have a large role in all things Vick.

I think it's obvious Starks is a good prospect, but he did go a year and a half without playing and missed the entire training camp. I can see why the Pack is a bit hesitant to just "hand over the keys" to him, particularly if they are seeing things in practice that they are concerned about.

As others have pointed out, they're going to have to mix and match Starks, Jackson, and Kuhn as best they can. Personally, I'm kind of tired of watching Jackson run, but there have been some games where he has been effective and the 1st Philly game was one of them.

I pray to God that Zombo and Jenkins can go in this game. Playing against Vick is different than playing against Cutler as Vick is just so athletic he wears your guys out from chasing him around. As many guys as you can throw at him, you have to just go after him with wave after wave of defenders. Not having Jenkins and Zombo would be tough to overcome this week. Heck, it will be tough even if those guys are out there.

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Originally posted by Blueshound:
Its the playoffs. I don't care how Starks practices (whatever that means???), he appears to provide more spark to the running game. It almost sounds like MM has been holding him back to flex some authority and to make a point.

My guess is you never played or coached if you don't know what "how he practices means."

To me it suggests that in practice he either does not understand what he is supposed to be doing or he either understands, makes a mistake get corrected appears less than interested in being coached up and then goes and makes the same mistake again.

or

It could mean that he clearly does not put forth his best effort.

Either way the coach (any coach) has to wonder what the guy will give him on the field.

So do you expect MM to just say ok kid, crappy week of practice--again, but your my man come game time?

The MM is not flexing muscle he is coaching and establishing standards.

Man, I really cannot believe that post.

Woodson might make for a great spy on Vick as said. The Eagles have so much speed that Shields and Williams can't matchup(Balddinger knows).

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Originally posted by Blueshound:
Its the playoffs. I don't care how Starks practices (whatever that means???), he appears to provide more spark to the running game. It almost sounds like MM has been holding him back to flex some authority and to make a point.

Have you reflected on how stupid this post is yet?

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Originally posted by cuqui:
This spying talk makes me laugh. Spying Vick with any linebacker is futile. Holding the edges and maintaining defensive lane integrity is much more important.

Werd.

Zombo hunts up the gut. Walden has great speed on the edge. You utilize both.

No, yes and no.

Walden probably earned himself some more playing time, but I don't see any changes in the depth chart. I hope Starks gets his act together because he's clearly the best runner they have.

starks always seems like he did something wrong after a run, like he held the ball too high - not tucked enough, bennett is always chatting at him when he comes over and the watch the big screen together - as to say, you did this wrong, you did that wrong, as far as talent and how the offensive sceme is, starks sure looks better, seems better at 1 cut and go.

Just seeing how much time it took before Grant (in 2007) and Nance (this year) had a chance to play in a game makes you realize that MM demands perfection in practice. I think that's a good thing. It's different if Woodson, Clifton, CMIII or another veteran practices poorly. But a rookie who hasn't played football in almost 2 years needs to show on the practice field that he is ready for a game. Starks might be one of those guys who practices poorly but plays well in a game. Time will tell, but I can't fault MM for being apprehensive about playing Starks more if he truly has practiced poorly, as practice is all you have to go on with this kid.

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Originally posted by CJS:
I go with the hot hand. Walden is playing well, leave him in. Zombo probably isn't 100% anyway.

At RB, Starks on 1st and 2nd down, Kuhn on short yardage and BJax on 3rd down.

Exactly.. And please,,, for the love of God, Put Kuhn in the I instead of trying to fit him up Sitton's kiester on the FB wedge.

I got the impression that Starks wasn't putting in enough effort in the special teams practice, or wasn't doing what he needed to do in practice. The article I read indicated that if he isn't an every down player, then you need to play special teams, and Nance was better at special teams. Sorry, no link.

As far as Walden and Zombo go I think they both play alot.

Starks is going to depend on Korey Halls status as he may not even be active.

I would like to see Starks get a 100yd game against the iggles while breaking one for a 40-50 yd TD.I believe GB will run the ball on the iggles and will be an important part of the game plan. That will get the attention of opposing DC fast like.That home run threat is what GB's offense has been missing and will provide consistancey on the offensive side of the ball.

GB's defense is due for a score or two also.

Rodgers had one of if not his worst game of the season vs. CHI. He and the offense usually responds well coming off such a performance. They should be able to put up at least 21-27 vs. PHI.

I think Starks has the ability to break a long one if he can just get enough reps to see the opportunity for one. We've seen him accelorate through gaps - if he can get one break in the 2nd/3rd level I think he's gone. Would love to see it vs. PHI.

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Originally posted by pkr_north:
starks always seems like he did something wrong after a run, like he held the ball too high - not tucked enough, bennett is always chatting at him when he comes over and the watch the big screen together - as to say, you did this wrong, you did that wrong, as far as talent and how the offensive sceme is, starks sure looks better, seems better at 1 cut and go.

Or, maybe EB is pointing out all the things he did right on the play. Coaching/Teaching is as much about positive reinforcement as it is about identifying opportunities for improvement.

Nope. It's about central authority and running laps.

Surprised you didn't know that.

Special teams had their best game of the year last week. Please activate Starks. He is the most talented back they have and they need him more than a third FB or Nance.

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Originally posted by CJS:
I go with the hot hand. Walden is playing well, leave him in. Zombo probably isn't 100% anyway.

At RB, Starks on 1st and 2nd down, Kuhn on short yardage and BJax on 3rd down.


Exactly.. And please,,, for the love of God, Put Kuhn in the I instead of trying to fit him up Sitton's kiester on the FB wedge.

YES.....