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Music City posted:

It'll be nice if the Bucks start getting some coverage. They're becoming worthy- 2 young stars and improved play. 

Funny- Andrew Bogut is available as a FA this year... in actuality, he's kinda the guy they need. His game fits well in both ends. 

Bogut is a good role player and would be valuable. I think what they really need to become an elite team is a great outside shooter who isn't a liability on defense or in handling the ball. It really sucks that Khris Middleton got hurt before the year. They'd be a real dangerous team with him spotting up for shots when Giannis drives and kicks or when teams double Jabari to get the ball out of his hands.

The Bucks interior defense is a far great issue. If the Bucks can trade Monroe for Bogut, they could be a much faster contender (if he stays healthy). Rebounding and rim protection are key issues. 

3 point shooting is vastly better now than before. As Parker continues to develop there, it's going to improve more. Sure, an elite 3 point shooter in today's game is important, but guys like JJ Redick is a liability on the other end. Middleton may never be the same player. 

MichiganPacker posted:

I watch the Bucks and the Warriors. I don't know if GS will win a championship this year, but when they get it going they are fun to watch.

Just stay healthy. Cleveland is freaking out right now, they know they can't lose a game in these series or risk playing more games & burning themselves out.

When Draymond starts hitting 3's they are impossible to beat. 

I love their team defense too. Watch how they switch & help each other. Well oiled machine.

Draymon Green is a f*cking punk. I love the game of basketball, and asshats like him are ruining the game. The kicks, the constant BS at the refs (even when he's the one that committed the foul). I hope that f*cker blows both ACLs and doesn't get another ring. Between his BS and the BS LeBron gets away with, I can't wait until the Bucks youngsters blossom and drop these self important entitled  jag bags... 

Lowry is a Free Agent, and would be an interesting addition to the Bucks. The Bucks lack that penetrating G who can create his own shots. Lowry can do that, and would allow the Bucks to be 2 deep at both G spots. Then you also have versatility with Snell and Middleton, who defensively are interchangeable, and can disperse minutes between Brogdon, Lowry, and Delly, keeping all fresh. Lowry is 31, so minutes are going to be an issue for him sooner rather than later. 

 

Van Gundy had an interesting point during the game that Mike & Mike were talking about this morning- when you get a player protesting a call, especially the way that Green was after he pulled Gobert to the ground, got called for the foul, went after the ref after the call before going to the bench, and then ultimately got t'd up for jawing at the red from the bench- the official should have the ability to review a player's protest and determine if the call was reversible. Then if the player was protesting but dead ass wrong (as it seems to be a lot of the time), the player gets a T (Van Gundy said ejected). 

The officials get a lot of calls wrong when they don't call stuff, then call ticky-tack fouls elsewhere. And LeBron, as much as he gets away with, argues EVERY foul he gets called for. Green did that on Saturday - he committed a foul, then was incredulous about the call when he obviously yanked him down. If his complaint was that Gobert was hooking him, well jeez Draymon, you do that a fair amount yourself. Sometimes it goes your way, sometimes not. But you yanked him to the ground. No gray area there. 

The complaining players do on every call is complete bullsh*t. Officiating is hard enough... but these guys act like a-holes. And while I think officiating is a huge issue in the NBA, the players might be exacerbating the problem with their behavior. 

Music City posted:

Draymon Green is a f*cking punk. I love the game of basketball, and asshats like him are ruining the game. The kicks, the constant BS at the refs (even when he's the one that committed the foul). I hope that f*cker blows both ACLs and doesn't get another ring. Between his BS and the BS LeBron gets away with, I can't wait until the Bucks youngsters blossom and drop these self important entitled  jag bags... 

Here's why I laugh at this....

If he was on your favorite team, you would absolutely love him.

He's not dirty. 

He's passionate, he works hard, he has awesome defense & he adds a level of toughness to a finesse team like the Warriors. He's exactly what they need & if Green was on the Bucks, they would've beaten Toronto & probably won a game or 2 from Cleveland. 

Say what you want about the guy but he's a damn good basketball player & the entire league missed on drafting him earlier than he was drafted. LeBron would KILL to have him on Cleveland.

Game 3 vs. the Spurs is on Saturday. Should be a good one!

Tschmack posted:

I'm not sure Green would have the same impact on another team.  He's a good player but his strengths are emphasized and weaknesses are minimized.  He doesn't need to score and gets a lot of space to roam given everyone else you need to defend on that team. 

 

Not the same impact on another team?

Draymond

Yeah right....He'd be unreal on the Bucks & he's a nightmare for the opposing offense. Not a punk. Just passionate & dedicated

Brainwashed Boris posted:

Here's why I laugh at this....

If he was on your favorite team, you would absolutely love him.

He's not dirty. 

He's passionate, he works hard, he has awesome defense & he adds a level of toughness to a finesse team like the Warriors. He's exactly what they need & if Green was on the Bucks, they would've beaten Toronto & probably won a game or 2 from Cleveland. 

Say what you want about the guy but he's a damn good basketball player & the entire league missed on drafting him earlier than he was drafted. LeBron would KILL to have him on Cleveland.

Game 3 vs. the Spurs is on Saturday. Should be a good one!

I hated him at MSU, I hate him now. I do not know whether I would like him as a Bucks player because he isn't. It wouldn't be easy to like him, that much I know. 

And the "scrappy, passionate" monicker goes out the window after last year's finals. He kicked one time... ok. 2 times? Hmmm... 3 times? Now you're just dirty. Now you're trying to get away with bull****, and you know what? It cost them a Championship, because Cleveland does not comeback if he doesn't get suspended. People vilify Pachulia for being dirty... no one defends it. Green is no different with the dirty BS. He's just a better player. People defend it. I don't like it when Dellavadova tries dirty **** too- but Green lives on it. Delly has curbed that shot in Milwaukee. Kidd wants him playing hard nosed but fair ball, so you don't see it much anymore. But when Delly's in their grill getting physical and setting tough screens? All day, baby... that what I call scrappy. 

Green reminds me a lot of Serge Ibaka.  A good player on his own, and a very good player with a surrounding cast around him.  But he's no Durant, he's no Curry, and he's no Klay Thompson.  He's the 4th option on a dominant team.  

Did Ibaka make a difference for Orlando?  Not really.  But he was decent with OKC and Toronto.  Much like Green. 

As for whether or not he's a punk, I think he's a guy that relishes stirring the pot.  And playing a little dirty.  But Golden State needs it.  Without him they are a Euro team.  

I've got zero issue with Draymond throwing shade at LeBron after LeBron posted pics from his Halloween party last October featuring Klay Thompson and Steph Curry tombstones and "3-1 series lead" signs everywhere. Rumor is LeBron had a Steph Curry "dummy" in uniform at the front door and LeBron demanded everyone step over it before they could join the party. 

Nothing wrong with a mean sprited rivalry. Those two legitimately hate each other. 

I find it interesting all the attention on Green yet Curry is constantly posing after shots and pulling an Albert Pujols staring down bombs.  That's why I wish Giannis would have hammered him during the AS game instead of his pussy move of not even challenging a dunk on D- but laying down on the court instead. 

If Cleveland had Green they probably win the series.

Curry and Durant should donate half of their salaries to Green.  

 

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