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If only Buffalo's renaissance could've started 2-3 years ago...
In any case, I hope to see the Dolphins and Bills fight over the AFCE for at least the next few years. It would sure be a refreshing change.

49ers may have blown any chance they had to make the playoffs tonight.
Boo hoo.

@Herschel posted:

Hey, look, another rookie receiver producing.

Yes. With the new rules & how you can't even blow a snot bubble on an offensive player -- rookie receivers can flourish.

All the receivers Gutey wanted went pick #25 & higher. Aiyuk, Jefferson, CD Lamb, etc

Did you want him to mortgage the future for 1 single player?

He tried to trade up. Multiple times in multiple slots. Each time they wanted too much draft capital until he found the Dolphins a willing trade partner that only wanted a late 4th.

I do still wish he took P. Queen instead of Love but it's over with now.

Can't change it. Time to move forward instead of looking at what might have been.

@Pikes Peak posted:

I've never understood how so many games in so many sports can be fixed

That Seattle-Packer fail mary game where MD Jennings came down with the ball and the ref said Tate caught it for a TD. Any game where the refs insert themselves, to change the outcome of the game, is suspect, to me. The Packers- Broncos Super Bowl, in San Diego, looked rigged as Favre threw the football a mile over Antonio Freeman's head, on what could have been a TD, by Freeman, as the field was wide open all the way to the end zone. It was Elway's last shot at a Ring and Favre had gotten one the year before, too.  That looked like the fix was in, for Elway, to me.

The presence of gambling in sports will always call into question officiating because real or perceived it can impact the outcome of games.

We all know the history of college basketball (point shaving) - namely Boston College in the 70s and A$U in the early 90s as examples.  Then there’s the NBA from the infamous Game 6 of the Kings/Lakers playoff debacle to Tim Donaghy being indicted.  What became clear is at least in Donaghy’s games he called more fouls on the team he bet against (duh!!) and it was considered obvious.  My guess is it wasn’t just TD that had a hand in it.  At least in the David Stern era many playoff games seems to be predetermined.  Hence the “Knick” Bavetta commentary and Ray Allen slamming the league (among others).  What’s interesting is people forget game 7 Blazers/Lakers in 2000 and LAL got to the line 21 more times including going on a 31-13 4Q to propel the Lakers to move on.  Guess who officiated that one?  Bavetta.  And I won’t even get into the NBA lottery!

In terms of football, if you watched this weekend’s Wisconsin and Indiana game it sure seemed to give the appearance the refs were favoring the Hoosiers. The spread was almost 14 for UW and the over under was 44 points.  Yes we know the Badgers were hampered offensively but several calls or non calls negatively impacted Bucky.  Including the last play that looked like obvious PI on the Indiana DB in the end zone.  The Badgers dominated the statistical categories including penalty yardage (by a lot).  If Dike scores and the Badgers get to OT then that over under could be at risk.  The 14 point spread was juicy enough.

The NFL generally seems to a better job of not looking so obvious but again, when there’s money on the line you do get some curious calls (or non calls).  The Packers/Seahawks game was just ineptitude in so many ways and with replacement refs it was bound to happen.

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@H5 posted:

Odds a rookie WR would have AR's trust by week 13?

I would say if the WR/TE runs the right route and catches passes he should catch....pretty good. Just look at 2018 & 2019:

MVS - 73 targets in 16 games

EQ - 36 targets in 12 games

Jonesy - 35 targets in 12 games

JW - 41 targets in 16 games

Lazard - 52 targets in 16 games (only 1 pro game prior)



Given AR's tendency to often locking in on Adams, Those targets/game are decent for 1st year players.

Cobb missed nearly half of '18 and GMo only played in 5 games, so I take MVS's targets that year with an *.



I was being somewhat facetious on the AR trust... but.

I did read an analysis (I think it was Orlovsky) about Rodgers' comfort in year 2 of MiLFs offense. He noted that Rodgers likely had to re-train the muscle memory for the outs, slants, hooks, etc... because LaFleur runs them at different depths and angles. Seems plausible. So, does a rookie WR run great routes in yr 1? Most of them live off their raw talent to make the ooh, ahh, wow plays, but is there consistency?

Jefferson (MIN) is the rookie WR with the most catches in 2020. Picked 22nd. Lamb was picked 17th. Higgens 33rd. Claypool 49th. Just don't see any of them getting opportunities in the Packers offense that would have or would make a difference.

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@BrainDed posted:

You don't see Chase Claypool getting opportunities in our offense?  Okay.

"opportunities in the Packers offense that would have or would make a difference"

Sure, he'd get opportunities, but do they make a difference? Any first or 2nd round WR would get opportunities - unless the GM absolutely blew the pick. Few are difference makers in yr 1 on a team with the offensive talent in GB.

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