THEY'RE CHEATING!!!!
Not if they're not getting caught.
#Packers ILB Kamal Martin and WR Equanimeous St. Brown are practicing. They’ve been designated to return off IR. Three-week window to activate them. CB Kevin King (quad) and RB Tyler Ervin (wrist) the only two not practicing today. They’re both working on the side.
Packers looking like a pretty healthy group coming off the bye week.
It seems like the Packers have been pretty shrewd in dealing with injuries, erroring on the side of extreme caution, and it may pay dividends during the toughest quarter of their schedule.
Here's to hoping Martin and Winn can add something down the stretch.
@packerboi posted:Packers looking like a pretty healthy group coming off the bye week.
Man, that's huge getting Martin and ESB back. Hope to see some good news on Lazard in a few weeks.
Hope to see EQ and KM on the 53 soon...have 3 weeks to decide.
Sure hope Kevin King can go this week. Less Josh Jackson
Josh cannot play CB
Safety, MAYBE, but not CB.
I think they just need to stop drafting DB's named Josh.
Replacing the rookie:
The Packers signed TE Dominique Dafney to the practice squad. Dafney (6-2, 243) was in camp with the Colts following his career at Indiana State, which also produced current Packers TE Robert Tonyan. The Packers had Dafney in for a workout on Sept. 26, so they had their on him even before rookie Josiah Deguara suffered a torn ACL.
Ben Fennell
@BenFennell_NFL
Dafney is 6'2 243 HB/TE type... Clearly looking for some Deguara-style replacements in the offense
@DH13 posted:Six of Brady's fingers don't care.
Definitely Brady has had a much more fulfilling career. I'm sure Rodgers or any other QB would trade all their stats for a few more Super Bowls.
But comparing individual players, it's not even close with these guys.
@DH13 posted:Six of Brady's fingers don't care.
Brady is a top 10 QB all-time, but contemporaries like Brees and Rodgers are in the conversation as well.
If you replaced Brady with Rodgers or Brees do the Patriots win fewer titles?
If you replaced Rodgers or Brees with Brady do the Packers or Saints win more titles?
I'd argue the answer to both questions is no. It doesn't mean that Brady isn't great. It just means winning titles doesn't mean that Brady was better than either of them as a QB. He took advantage of the chances he was given. Because he had Belichick as his coach, he had a huge advantage.
Rodgers has lost 8 playoff games in his career. In 3 of them, he leads the team to a tying score late in the 4th quarter and then never got the ball back. In another, he fumbled on a missed face mask call on the last play. In the other 4, the defense gave up an average of 41 points.
@Dr._Bob posted:Plus, Brady cheated.
That does make it a little easier.
If there is one thing hugely in Rodgers' favor compared to other QBs of his era, just look at how the Pack performed when he was injured. In 2013, the season completely turned on its ear when he got hurt vs. the Bears and Seneca Wallace/Scott Tolzien/Matt Flynn had to replace him. The Pack looked very good before he went down, and he gave the Pack enough cushion that as awful as they were during that Wallace/Tolzien/Flynn stretch, he came back in week 17 to win them a division title.
Basically 2017 was a repeat of 2013 except Hundley was the replacement and this time when Rodgers came back, he clearly wasn't healthy enough to be close to what he had been and rescue the team from the depths of awfulness they had fallen into.
You look at when Brady was out injured, the Patriots looked 100 times better with their backups than the Pack ever did with any of theirs. Yes, their backup QBs were better players than the bums the Pack was putting out there, but overall, it was just a much more well coached team that wasn't so completely dependent on 1 guy to carry the organization.
New Orleans was kind of the same way. Brees got hurt last year and that team didn't miss a beat without him.
It's fair to say that Rodgers and R. Wilson are the 2 guys that have carried their teams more than any other QBs of the past 10-15 years.
Best of all time is hard to gauge because of the evolution of the game. Do you think Brees is one of the top QB's of his era if his era was the 70's? No way in hell, he would have been broken after a few years.
QB's were different back then because they had to be. This doesn't even take into consideration the rules regarding WR's. It's not an even comparison.
@MichiganPacker2 posted:I'd argue the answer to both questions is no. It doesn't mean that Brady isn't great. It just means winning titles doesn't mean that Brady was better than either of them as a QB. He took advantage of the chances he was given. Because he had Belichick as his coach, he had a huge advantage.
Rodgers has lost 8 playoff games in his career. In 3 of them, he leads the team to a tying score late in the 4th quarter and then never got the ball back. In another, he fumbled on a missed face mask call on the last play. In the other 4, the defense gave up an average of 41 points.
Brady may go down as the most clutch QB ever, among other things. AR was on the losing end of bad D but Brady could just as easily have won 2 or 3 more SB's, if you want play that game. I really don't want to compare AR and TB for the purpose of saying who's better in any definitive way, but the above take seems to be washing out a lot of what TB has done and how he did it.
Anybody got a linky to the national tv map for Sunday? Gonna be in the ATL visiting my Kiel-Ette —-can I assume as the Fox late game it will be on there following the Dirty Bird game at 1:00?
Replacing Lazard....
@Blair Kiel posted:Anybody got a linky to the national tv map for Sunday? Gonna be in the ATL visiting my Kiel-Ette —-can I assume as the Fox late game it will be on there following the Dirty Bird game at 1:00?
You don't know about https://506sports.com/ ?
Every Wednesday about noon the TV maps are up.
Up earlier this week, so I'll save you a click...
It'a a national broadcast.
Sorry Bird, I just saw you post.
Over under on posts whining about Buck and Acheman - 13.5.
Also, can't wait to see ESB lining up in the slot sometime soon!
Thanks bean and bird! You guys rock! Didn’t want to have to watch the game on my phone via Direct Tv app.
@MichiganPacker2 posted:That does make it a little easier.
Oh yes it does. As well has having consistently good defenses something that Aaron has never had.
@Pikes Peak posted:Am I chopped liver?
First one to reply, too.
@YATittle posted:Replacing Lazard....
I think we could do with much better durability at WR overall, Would be better than the rotating injury list.
Shouldn't the thread be renamed to something like "1 WEEK TO TALK ABOUT TOM BRADY"?
"2 WEEKS ......" was so one week ago.
@Blair Kiel posted:Thanks bean and bird! You guys rock! Didn’t want to have to watch the game on my phone via Direct Tv app.
bean? I've got your bean hangin'... Oh wait.
I think Rodgers is among the best to ever throw the football. Unitas, Marino, maybe Otto Graham (never saw him) are in that conversation.
Brady's great success stems from defeating the ego required of pro QBs. He, like the other Patriots, were required to "just do your job." Belichek is the architect of the Patriots' dynasty. Attack the weakness on offense; attack the strength on defense.
@grignon posted:Brady's great success stems from defeating the ego required of pro QBs. He, like the other Patriots, were required to "just do your job." Belichek is the architect of the Patriots' dynasty. Attack the weakness on offense; attack the strength on defense.
The other thing is that Brady's contract was always way under market value. That extra 5 to 10 million a year that was freed up really helped the Patriots bring in those extra pieces every year to get them over the hump.
It's a good reflection on Brady that his ego didn't drive him to be the top-paid player in the NFL. Of course, it's easier to think that way when your wife's net worth is approaching half a billion dollars.