So this is as good a place as any. My bro-in-law is a big Vajeen fan. Not a dope but a guy that really knows football. He made a point the other day that for some reason never really hit me until he said it. "How is that defense not top ten every year with those names and solid youth on a regular basis". Seriously, if you look at this defense even with it's weak spots there's just no excuse.
And to give a measure of his fandom, he thinks Bridgewater is destitute man's Alex Smith and that's being generous.