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What a great start to the 100th season of the NFL this would be!

 

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Hasn't it been the tradition that the Super Bowl winner is one of the teams in the Thursday kick-off?   

And remember the "leaked" NFL schedule we saw last spring that had 0 games right? 

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Unpossible.  We all know it would have to be the Vikes for the opener. 

They after all are one of the greatest franchises in current, recent and all times.

So says the two blowhards that infect one particular thread....

EC Pack posted:

Unpossible.  We all know it would have to be the Vikes for the opener. 

They after all are one of the greatest franchises in current, recent and all times.

So says the two blowhards that infect one particular thread....

Well we all know that the Vikings defense is so brutal that players from other teams will actually get badly hurt just facing them. 

So I wonder if the Packers play the first Thursday if that would mean they would get the Thursday night game over with and they wouldn't have to play one later?

hope it isn't Packers/ bears. Those sorts of games should be played later in the year. I hate it when the NFL plays big rivalries like this out the gate.

Have GB play some crappy team like the Patriots or Seahawks out the gate then play the real rivalries in Nov and Dec.

Aaron update:

"I feel great," Rodgers told Kay Adams and Kyle Brandt of the NFL Network. "My body feels really good. Instead of getting surgery postseason, decided to kind of go through a different routine with my knee than I've done in the past, and I'm feeling really, really good. Got a concussion the last game, that's cleared up. I'm getting back into my workout routine, but the first month of the offseason is a lot about yoga and traveling."

Rodgers and girlfriend Danica Patrick toured New Zealand and he said the trip included a stop in Hawaii to visit with golfer Jerry Kelly, who will be his playing partner during this week's Pebble Beach Pro-Am.

Alluding to the hiring of LaFleur to succeed the fired Mike McCarthy, Rodgers said, "A lot of change in life, in general. It's tough at first, but it usually works out for the best. So I'm excited about what's going on in Green Bay and the future there, and just enjoying my time off."

Packers Edleman might already be on the roster. I think MLF can use EQ and Kumerow the same way. 

Important to note that Edleman isn’t doing anything extraordinary. He’s almost always in motion to determine man or zone. Or Gronk runs motion. Either way it’s for Brady to see coverage. Edleman runs a 5-7 yard stem and then has freedom to break in / out / sit down depending on where the soft spot is. He rarely runs a known pre snap route unless it’s to the seam. 

Now. Edleman and Brady are virtually unstoppable because they are both seeing the same hole in the defense. It doesn’t happen overnight but Welker and Amendola ran the same patterns for NE  equally as effective. 

There is no reason MLF can’t coach EQ and Kumerow to be used with the similar results. 

Yeah comical to think that when Edelman was drafted some speculated they'd use him to run Wildcat, and he eventually worked into the Welker role. Brady nicknamed him Minitron one time in a reference to our favorite old Lions WR.

Kumerow & St. Brown are nothing like Edelman. Edelman thrives on his short area quickness, change of direction, and explosion out of cuts. His "confined area times" are incredible; 3.92 short shuttle and 6.62 3 cone drill. For comparison Kumerow's are 4.26 for short shuttle & 6.9 for 3 cone. St. Brown did not run either at combine or pro day, but at 6'5" I can't believe they were anywhere near Edelman's numbers. Not saying they will not be good players but they would not be as successful running the types of routes Edelman does. 

 

 

Edleman wasn’t the 232nd guy selected in the draft because of his physical greatness. He’s 50% ability, 30% football IQ, and 20% film rat. 

You can make quick guys look slow if you let them run themselves out of position. And he’s great at letting them oblige him. 

And never, ever, ever assume we understand what EQ, Valdez Scantling, Moore, Kumerow, and Davis are capable of after watching them in Mikes offense. 

You have to ball that shit up and toss it in the recycling bin. 

El-Ka-Bong posted:

I also think it is great everyone forgets Edleman might have been so good in the Superbowl because he got to rest for the first four games of the season

After missing a season for knee surgery.

Zero chance Bo Jackson can play an effective Barry Sanders role. They are two completely different body types. 

This idea you have to be 5’11 and shifty to be a great slot reciever is bullshit. Can you recognize coverage and quickly find the vacated spot? Can you play football? 

If Tyler Boyd at 6’2 can become a ****ing nightmare in the slot with Andy Dalton then EQ has a great opportunity with Rodgers and MLF. 

And never, ever, ever assume we understand what EQ, Valdez Scantling, Moore, Kumerow, and Davis are capable of after watching them in Mikes offense. 

Does that mean they misused Jeff Janis! too? 

Janis is a tough sell. Rams offense was never the same after losing 6’2 210 lb slot reciever Cooper Kupp. 

Football is always evolving. Cant fill spots looking for “body types”. Find football players. Then coach them up. Goes for every position. 

Interesting last few minutes of the packers podcast from Silverstein and robin that came out this am.

He addresses bakhtiari’s comments about lack of accountability and goes at rodgers a lil bit. Worth a listen. 

 

Pikes Peak posted:
El-Ka-Bong posted:

I also think it is great everyone forgets Edleman might have been so good in the Superbowl because he got to rest for the first four games of the season

After missing a season for knee surgery.

And juicing up on the cream and the clear. And I believe he is still juicing. Look at the definition and quickness and NEs propensity to cheat.

Confirmed start with a division win in the windy city.

The Chicago Bears will play host to the Packers on Thursday, Sept. 5 at 7:20 p.m. CT, at Soldier Field. The opener will be televised on NBC. This past year, Green Bay opened its own 100th season at Lambeau Field with a 24-23 comeback win over the Bears.

This is great news! 1) This guarantees we won't have a short week Thursday game during the season and 2) we will start the season with a mini-bye. The only things more fun than embarrassing Chicago in week 1 is embarrassing them in week 17 to keep them from the playoffs and embarrassing them on their own turf to keep them from the SB!

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Isn't the week 1 TNF game technically a SNF game in terms of who gets scheduled on Thursdays?  Meaning you get another Thursday game?

Last year's opener was Atlanta at Philadelphia.  Atlanta played again on Thanksgiving at New Orleans, while Philadelphia played Thursday, Oct. 11 at NYG.

Welp. This would be different. Just don’t let Ryan Braun pack their passports..

#Packers president Mark Murphy confirms the team is in discussions to play an exhibition game in Canada against the #Raiders. Possible locations include Saskatchewan and Winnipeg, according to Murphy.

This also hasn’t happened since 2005:

#Packers coach Matt LaFleur is changing the practice schedule, wants to hold joint training camp sessions with another team and vowed to build a culture rooted in discipline. There’s a new sheriff in Green Bay.

packerboi posted:

This also hasn’t happened since 2005:

#Packers coach Matt LaFleur is changing the practice schedule, wants to hold joint training camp sessions with another team and vowed to build a culture rooted in discipline. There’s a new sheriff in Green Bay.

If I remember,  2005 was not a very good year.

packerboi posted:

This also hasn’t happened since 2005:

#Packers coach Matt LaFleur is changing the practice schedule, wants to hold joint training camp sessions with another team and vowed to build a culture rooted in discipline. There’s a new sheriff in Green Bay.

Remember the Cheese League? The NFL training camps that were located in Wisconsin? Once per camp, the teams would "scrimmage" another team based at a UW college. We had the KC Chiefs, as the Home team, at UW-River Falls. They hosted the vikings who drove in from Winter Park for the day. The following camp KC hosted the New Orleans Saints who drove up from their camp at UW-Lacrosse. LaFleur's plans remind me of those days.

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#Packers new Head Coach Matt LeFleur told reporters in Arizona this week he's watched every single play of Quarterback #Aaron Rodgers for the last 2 years. That's about 1500 snaps he's reviewed. 

Radio discussing this today who were there when LaFleur talked about this said LaFleur looked like he already has his game face on. He appears to really grinding when it comes to his plans for the 2019 Pack. 

LaFleur then said he looked back into Rodgers older film and one of the plays that stood out was in a game against the New York Jets and he plans to show the play to Rodgers when he meets with him at the start of offseason workouts on Apr. 8. 

“Some of the traits you always look for in a QB … they brought an internal cross-dog blitz and he hit Jordy (Nelson) over the middle,” LaFleur said via Wes Hodkiewicz of Packers.com. “It’s what we call our no-flinch. There was a free runner, I think it was Bart Scott came running in there free and just how he stood in the pocket and delivered an accurate ball and took (a hit), really he got folded in half like a suitcase. But that’s one of my all-time clips of him, one of my favorite clips of him.”

Where does Jordy rank in the top receivers in Green Bay. Of course Don Hutson would be #1 but I never saw him play. For guys in the last 50 years. I think it would go James Lofton, Sterling Sharpe, then Jordy. If Javon Walker would have stayed healthy and stopped whining about his contract he would have been top five but since he didnt and could not, the top five is rounded out by Greg Jennings, and Davante with Davante moving up the list. 

In 8 seasons, Antonio Freeman:

477 catches 7251 yards 66 TD's 15.2 avg 

Jordy has 6 more TD's vs Freeman. 

Each had played one season elsewhere. 

IMO, Freeman has to be among the top all-time Packer WR's

Floridarob posted:

Where does Jordy rank in the top receivers in Green Bay. Of course Don Hutson would be #1 but I never saw him play. For guys in the last 50 years. I think it would go James Lofton, Sterling Sharpe, then Jordy. If Javon Walker would have stayed healthy and stopped whining about his contract he would have been top five but since he didnt and could not, the top five is rounded out by Greg Jennings, and Davante with Davante moving up the list. 

Floridarob, I think you have it right.  Like you, never saw Hutson play, saw all the others, Hutson still #1.  I think those who never saw saw Lofton may not realize how incredible he was -- truly elite height, hands, speed and smarts.  Sharpe was a beast.  Both should have been Packers much longer than they were.  You watch these replays of Jordy and are reminded just how much he contributed over the years.  What a great player:  https://www.packers.com/video/...he-green-bay-packers

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When comparing current vs past WRs, we also have to keep in mind rules then vs now. 

Then, corners and safeties could play, you know, defense. They could drill WRs, play real bump and run, and grab. 

Now? Imagine a 21 year old version of Sharpe playing now. With all the rules slanted toward the offense. 

Holy shit...

packerboi posted:

When comparing current vs past WRs, we also have to keep in mind rules then vs now. 

Then, corners and safeties could play, you know, defense. They could drill WRs, play real bump and run, and grab. 

Now? Imagine a 21 year old version of Sharpe playing now. With all the rules slanted toward the offense. 

Holy shit...

Antonio Brown posted 5 strait seasons with 1200 plus receiving yards, 

Sharpe could have done that with one hand tied behind his back.

James Lofton was a friggin beast. Imagine a 21 year old Lofton now.

Lofton, Rice, Sharpe all in their prime playing today?? Shiiiiiiiiittt Those dudes might have 3,000 yards receiving each

Boris posted:

Didn't know where else to put this. 

Guess Bulaga likes @ManCity

He is an enormous City fan. He only watches soccer and golf. No other sports. "Sports"? Fortunately, City lost yesterday to Tottenham. Sorry, CHONGO.

Floridarob posted:

Where does Jordy rank in the top receivers in Green Bay. Of course Don Hutson would be #1 but I never saw him play. For guys in the last 50 years. I think it would go James Lofton, Sterling Sharpe, then Jordy. If Javon Walker would have stayed healthy and stopped whining about his contract he would have been top five but since he didnt and could not, the top five is rounded out by Greg Jennings, and Davante with Davante moving up the list. 

Good one.  I would have to go Hutson, Lofton, Sharpe, Driver, and Jordy

I think in today's NFL Lofton and Sharpe would go freaking nuts and I can't even imagine how good their stats would be.  Can you even imagine Rodgers throwing to those two?

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It's hard for me to conclude Lofton was definitely better than Sharpe or Sharpe was definitely better than Lofton.

I have to give them a tie!

Lofton was awesome, but Sharpe found a way to get so many receptions even though it seemed he was all the offense had.  I don't know how he managed to do that!

Goalline posted:
Boris posted:

Didn't know where else to put this. 

Guess Bulaga likes @ManCity

He is an enormous City fan. He only watches soccer and golf. No other sports. "Sports"? Fortunately, City lost yesterday to Tottenham. Sorry, CHONGO.

Meh...you give up that many goals, you deserve to lose. I'm over it. Win the PL, and all is forgiven.

phaedrus posted:

It's hard for me to conclude Lofton was definitely better than Sharpe or Sharpe was definitely better than Lofton.

I have to give them a tie!

Lofton was awesome, but Sharpe found a way to get so many receptions even though it seemed he was all the offense had.  I don't know how he managed to do that!

They also played in completely different eras in terms of what a DB could do to a WR. Same with Sharpe and current players. 

Goalline posted:
Boris posted:

Didn't know where else to put this. 

Guess Bulaga likes @ManCity

He is an enormous City fan. He only watches soccer and golf. No other sports. "Sports"? Fortunately, City lost yesterday to Tottenham. Sorry, CHONGO.

Already commented on in the soccer forum....  

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I think I’d try to unload Spriggs on another team. Probably not possible, at least not right now. But maybe during preseason with some other teams’ injuries.  Or maybe someone thinks the ol’ “new scenery, new results” mantra.  Probably not.

Glad the traded up to jump in front of the Bears who were “rumored” to want Spriggs.  Instead, they got Cody Whitehair. Bears win that one.

I really don't want to do the arithmetic on all the teams, but the Packers could easily have the tallest WR corp in the NFL, and it's likely a prescription for failure. They're always talking about some tall WR doing what the Patriots/Steelers/etc. smurfs have done to gather all those Super Bowl rings. I was right years and years ago. It's impossible. The dummies in GB have ruined the careers of two of the greatest QB's the NFL has ever seen. The two SB's GB has won in their "they gotta be tall" WR era, had two WR's who were major in the SB wins who were under 6': Jennings and Howard.

So this year they will probably try a 6'5" returner. Innovation in Idiotsville. 

Cue, it's because Brady is throwing the Edelman. Which SB did they win when Brady was throwing to Moss? 

Smurf WR's dominate the primetime NFL; smurf WR's have almost all of the SB rings in the 21st century; WR's over 6' have very few, and it's for a physical reason: the slow, fat, uncoordinated slugs can't get open enough, and a 5'9" CB can easily out jump them on jump balls. Minitron has rings; Megatron and Moss don't.

Best WR Rodgers has ever had: DeSean Jackson. 

 

 

 

 

 

EQ and MVS aren't slow or fat.  None of them are really.

Sorry the game is ruined for you Johnny, but the NFL has changed.  They hardly wear pads anymore and smurfs are first to get hurt.

Good hearing from you again though (not being snide it's been a while since you posted).

P.S.  Trevor Davis is the returner.

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I don't understand the narrative but it makes me laugh every time I read it. 😆

Johnny Z = 5'5" WR who no team in the NFL wanted in the 70's?

Moss & Megatron didn't win Super Bowls because they didn't play with Favre or Rodgers.

Is Larry Fitzgerald a big fat slob?

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Boris posted:

I don't understand the narrative but it makes me laugh every time I read it. 😆

Johnny Z = 5'5" WR who no team in the NFL wanted in the 70's?

Moss & Megatron didn't win Super Bowls because they didn't play with Favre or Rodgers.

Is Larry Fitzgerald a big fat slob?

Larry Fitz? Another fat slug without a Super Bowl ring.

Friend in DePere that knows things tells me J’mon Moore will be the surprise this year. He also said Josh Jackson and Josh Jones will be leaving soon. Neither is fully invested. 

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